I tired to do the front with the same spring compressor but it didnt work. The long bolts kept hitting the spring mount. Also the spring hooks on the spring compressor would turn so they werent equally the same distance apart on each side of the spring. I just gave up and got the MB spring compressor. YouTube - mercedes Lowering springs Install
Quote Originally Posted by NYTM89 u c the thing is guys is that i want to do my own repairs and etc without really having to go to a mechanic if i can mostly do the basics. whats the best cost effective way of really getting under my car ] like say replacing a driveshaft flex disc you know I am in Ft. Lauderdale and whenever you want to do some work on your car let me know I can help out. I will be doing springs and shocks some time this summer. We could have a south Florida 190e fix it day.
Quote Originally Posted by NYTM89 really thanks man. yea i deff want to do some stuff to it like shocks strauts and other stuff. where in Ft.Lauder your probably not that far from me ] Im in Tamarac. I am also sourcing 400ee320 brakes right now. Once I find the brakes I will be ordering the ss brake lines new springs shocks and possibly front and rear sway bars. I plan on taking a Saturday and doing this all in one day. It will probably be July or August.
Quote You dont need spring compressors for the front end. so you are saying I can pull the LCA bolts like the rear and pull the spring. I was thinking about that but it seems that it would be very hard to line up 2 holse perfect. I did this on the back and it was cake. I just paid MB 191 to swap my fronts yesterday. I dont have the correct spring compressor and the one I was using took for ever.
07-03-2008 0659 PM cornblatt Visitor Join Date Jan 2006 Location Alberta Canada Posts 4 I think this should probably have been a new thread (rather than a reply to the welcome posting) but I will reply anyway... Ive attached the front spring selection chart from the EPC. Picking the correct spring involves adding up points from the chart. The 201.126 (190D-2.5) starts out at 39 points which requires
Quote Originally Posted by zephyrueffer Holy crap that was a huge wall of text. Anyways I doubt your car is in need of a 400E brake upgrade since its just a 2.5D Does the car appear to be lower than usual Id say if you dont want a lowered car and are worried about rubbing put on some W124 springs on the car. It will ride a little stiffer though. When you say that your lug bolts are sticking do you
Sounds like the rear springs are sagging. Id put the new springs in all around and fine tune the ride height with spring pads which as you may know come in different thicknesses. Mixing new H&Rs in front and leaving 25 year old springs in back may give you the squirrely handling you want to avoid.
Quote Originally Posted by ChrisFball I have this current set up on my car for more than a year. H&Rs on the front and stock springs in the back. I will say that the ride is bouncy in the front and mushy in the back when going over bumps or having people in the back. I really have no issues other than the ride. What youve got on the rear of your 16V is a lot closer to matching the H&Rs than any of the other 190s would...
since we are talking about lowering what size spring pads do 190s use stock who sells spring pad sets with a few choices in pad size
Interesting found on Ebay ..just pass it onLowering or Drop springs mercedes 190E 190D (300389703190)
Here is the tool you need eBay Motors mercedes suspension Coil spring Compressor Tool Kit Set (item 370036406170 end time Apr-01-08 210126 PDT) If you get it I would be the first one to rent it from you. I tried the second tool you posted but I was not able to get the spring out with it.
Since I made it to a thread with such seasoned experts in suspension I have a question that I have been having a hard time getting an answer to. First a little history. I purchased a 1991 300D w124 for my wife about 4 years ago. I bought on ebay and the vehicle was not even close to the description and pics that were posted. Since purchased I have replaced the rear coil springs new bilsteins all around
Majik- From what I have seen mercedes parts with different numbers are different in some way. Even parts that are visually identical may be made of a different alloy springs may have a different rating etc.. It may be possible to interchange them but without knowing the specifications it is hard to say. Since a W124 is a little heavier than a W201 W124 suspension parts (if they fit) would probably
According to the numbers on the diagram the faulty ball joint is 10726 and it fits into the end of the wishbone 10974. Taking the front suspension to bits is no problem for me - I have coil spring compressors and stuff. What I couldnt see was how the joint fits to the wishbone. I can buy a ball joint over-the-counter at the local mercedes parts dept real cheap and I can buy a new wishbone real expensive
Unless the front struts are completely dead the struts dont affect ride height to any measurable degree thats pretty much the springs job on the mercedes suspension. You can gain some height if youre already running 1 bump spring pads so that you can move up to a 3.
Sorry to hear about your coil snapping I have had this happen at the back coil on an old 190E that I had in the 1990s. I would recommend just buying the springs from mercedes direct as they are not that dear. I dont know about Boston but the UK sell them for about 60 each and they are pretty easy to fit so long as you can compress them with a tool. I have just recently put lowering coils on the front
Quote Originally Posted by RetroScott Well they fit perfectly just seem too soft Before they were installed I could compress them just a bit on the garage floor with my 230 lb body weight. Maybe they sent me rears as fronts Are rear springs shorter These were pretty long out of the box. Rear springs are an incompatible (smaller) diameter. I almost wonder if they sent you 2.3 springs or something. Do
Quote Originally Posted by chuck1960 I have a spring with front shock ready to install. There is a smaller spring 12inch approx. long - near the front. I have junk yard dealer who claims it doesnt exist. Any place near Kitchener (near Toronto) that has that spring Thanks What year is your 190 I only see the one spring.
I think your mechanic is oversstating any issue with coil steel springs failing on the 190E. You didnt mention if it was the front or rear coil. The rear coils are easier of the two to change since you dont need a spring compressor to remove or install them just a good bottle jack to compress the lower arms. The front coils are longer and do need an internal spring compressor to safely install them.
Ball joints do not make for a good first DIY project... But nevertheless I spent the past 2 days tearing apart my passenger side suspension to fix the squeaky joint. Turning is much quieter now and I feel like the steering wheel is much tighter. I still need to replace the Drivers side joint but Im going to hold out till I get new shocks and do it all at once. I had an impossible time finding a spring
ok but what about springs then.... Eibach perhaps As mentioned earlier Im looking for trackday handling. Im thinking about getting the brakes of an w124 e320 would that anti roll bar be good as well The EVOII rear bar must be allmost impossible to find for money well human money that is. Is there no alternative to that one. Im trying to keep this car on a relative low budget allthough the spring and
Quote n0alpha - 11242005 844 AM Perhaps your suspension in the back is shot. Check that first. Not sure if the 84 190D has Self Leveling System but that may be the problem. 190D had no self leveling suspension standard. you can idd try to get thicker spring pads that may pump it up a bit. Dont expect wonders if it really really sags the pads wouldnt matter enough. perhaps your springs are cut
Jippi This is not in the previous posts here so this is the first I have heard of it. Nonetheless if these are 1 lowering springs they will (if nothing else) put my front end right where it should be which acceptable and yet if I dont like it Ill cut a 12 twist or so out of them. I have to ask what the difference would be. front end weight I would think the 2 cars would be close to the same. Drew I
Quote Originally Posted by aardvark Jippi This is not in the previous posts here so this is the first I have heard of it. Nonetheless if these are 1 lowering springs they will (if nothing else) put my front end right where it should be which acceptable and yet if I dont like it Ill cut a 12 twist or so out of them. I have to ask what the difference would be. front end weight I would think the 2 cars
Hi There are two different systems 201 has SLS on front and rear axle with levels setting function. 126 has hydro-pneumatic suspension with levels setting function. The main differencies is that 126 has only hydraulic struts but 201 has coil springs and shock-absorbers with self-levelling function.
The 16 valve and the Sportline 2.3L 8 valve use the same front coil springs (aka Sport suspension). 201 321 20 04
Quote Originally Posted by Nfsjunkie91 Have you tried calling the dealer I cant find anything online for the 201. I imagine the any other 190e with the M102 engine (2.0 2.3) should have the same springs if its the same model year as well. I should hope so but again as I said the manuals I have are both for pre-facelifted models and while the enginetransmission bits shouldnt be too different even though