There seems to be no standard to what main dealers use. I suspect they just use whatever oil is best value in bulk at the time when they buy from their wholesalers. As long as it meets the spec it is fine. However Ive experienced in the past that this isnt always the case with other brand main dealers. Its all a bit relaxed. But then there is an argument that any good oil is good enough. At Esso research
First of all - did you check oil level Well I will not argue too much but IMO it is not a good observation... From this what I know oil filter has a valve that prevents oil from going back to the oil pan. If it works fine you should get oil pressure within just a few engine turns what means less than one second. Let me point out we are talking about a new car new engine and fresh oil. But there is
Nikola ..first of all is good if it turns off and stays like that Then regarding the timedehits a discussion which involves ambient temperature oil viscosity oil filter capacity of ...filtering (means that may be clogged) oil filter retaining valve and so on... hope is not about pressure gauge & transducer But if the little gremlins are running into your head..may be is better to see the service
I too seem to notice a greater delay in oil light going off in my 09 Sedona. Changed oil with Castrol 5W-20 and Fram filter with 2 new O-rings. Maybe FRam filter is problem
I would never use Fram filters utter rubbish.
If you are following the oil check procedure shouldnt be overfilled unless mechanics have put to much oil. It also happens if they didnt change the filter and put 5.3 liters as it calls for. Sorry Ive seen all kind of negligence by mechanics so might sound a bit skeptical here. Id take it back and have them double check their work. You are the customer and a real dealer with customer on their mind
Quote Originally Posted by bojanb If you are following the oil check procedure shouldnt be overfilled unless mechanics have put to much oil. It also happens if they didnt change the filter and put 5.3 liters as it calls for. Sorry Ive seen all kind of negligence by mechanics so might sound a bit skeptical here. Id take it back and have them double check their work. You are the customer and a real dealer
Sounds to me like the oil filter wasnt correctly tightened when it was serviced No wonder they sorted it without question if it was them who did the service.
I would imagine they would have dropped all the oil then replaced the filter then refilled with fresh oil then again I could be wrong but atleast your engine would appreciate it. Glad you got it sorted so promptly.
Yes it was Hidsons they normally do a good job and give reasonable discounts on their cars too. They didnt say exactly what was wrong just that it was the filter though I had done around 8000 miles since the service when it started leaking. Still as long as its fixed thats what matters. There are other kia dealers in the area so I suppose they need to give a good service.
Ok guys thanks for the advice you opened my eyes and you were all correct in what you said and I decided to tell the guy not to do the service and I will get it done myself. He took the wholesale costs of the parts off my final bill too. If any of you are interested when I phoned kia they said the second service includes oil oil filter air filter break fluid sump washer spark plugs changing Picked
Arent all ceeds still under warranty so why would you need to buy parts Suspension is different on the i30 and ceeds but many parts will be the same. For example I have a new boxed oil filter in front of me and it is labelled as both kia and Hyundai with just one part number.
Quote Originally Posted by d3matt Arent all ceeds still under warranty so why would you need to buy parts Suspension is different on the i30 and ceeds but many parts will be the same. For example I have a new boxed oil filter in front of me and it is labelled as both kia and Hyundai with just one part number. Totally agree with that but will add how would Hyundai parts be any cheaper When we bought
118K If you dont mind me asking how much did you have to pay for that and what model is it Ive only every purchased an oil filter and now the inner front wing guard and both were reasonably priced. If other kia parts are expensive then I wonder if this is because up to now they have not been sold on the open market as only kia dealers have needed parts within the network due to all ceeds being under
Hi There is a service manual at httpceedonline.infodocsmanuals...nglish_rhd.rar when you unpack the manual open ENGED2010MY9.pdf It basically says Enigne oil 12months20.000km (12.500miles) Valve adjust 80.000km (50000miles) by authorised kia dealer. Fuel filter 36 months 37.500 miles Brake fluid 24 months 25.000 miles Spark plugs 24 months 25.000 miles The 14 uses a timing chain. I would check the
They track the forum but they just dont care... Simple as that... Its not profitable... ofc that all the owners of kia dont have the problems and most of them are happy with car but there is also very large number of ppl that are not satisfied with kias customer service... How many time Ive heard that someone complaint on ceed (shity geraboxgeras are hardl switchin to model 2009 for example ) and they
by SWceed In Australia its normal for servicing intervals to be shorter than the UK its climate is more severe. Out BMW is serviced every 2 years and has been fine. If the ceed did 20000 miles a year it would get serviced every 20000 miles no problem with the correct spec long life oil. You can save a little by using independents but its certainly not 60% and there are catches. By servicing at a kia
Quote Originally Posted by Nikola I did the second service (30 000 km) and it cost about 240 eur. Just curriosedwhat was included in 30 000 km service.oiloil filtercabin filterair filter.....
Quote Originally Posted by alfa146 Just curriosedwhat was included in 30 000 km service.oiloil filtercabin filterair filter..... Engine oil 5.5l oil filter Fuel filter Air filter AC filter Anti freeze 3l Distilled water 3l Brakes oil 2.5l Labour 3.5h
Quote Originally Posted by Nikola Engine oil 5.5l oil filter Fuel filter Air filter AC filter Anti freeze 3l Distilled water 3l Brakes oil 2.5l Labour 3.5h Thanks Nikola.
I have heard in the past (although not on kia) that K&N type filters that are oiled can cause issue with the MAF sensor. The oil from the filter can stick to the MAF and cause it to give incorrect readings to the ECU giving poor running. Im not saying this is the cause but maybe worth a check Even if you have replaced the filter with a genuine one the oil from the K&N might have got where it shouldnt
Here in the US CRC-Brand MAF cleaner is readily available but if not in your location.. This may help Crc Maf Cleaner Available Now - The M3cutters - UK BMW M3 Group Forum -- In short use a high quality electronics cleaner spray spray the vanes and sensor thoroughly while tilting the MAF so the cleaner drains out - and let the MAF unit thoroughly dry before reinstalling. (Give it an hour or so to completely
Quote Originally Posted by GottaCruise Here in the US CRC-Brand MAF cleaner is readily available but if not in your location.. This may help Crc Maf Cleaner Available Now - The M3cutters - UK BMW M3 Group Forum -- In short use a high quality electronics cleaner spray spray the vanes and sensor thoroughly while tilting the MAF so the cleaner drains out - and let the MAF unit thoroughly dry before reinstalling.
Modern diesels dont rely on glow plugs to start as much old technology diesels did before direct injection and common rail technology. At -13 they probably did have an effect but at temps down to jsut below freezing they have little if any effect. And once the engine has stated they will have no effect on the running at all. I would get your fuel filter checked. It should be replaced every 2 years. With regards to oil if your car has a dpf it should be filled with C3 5w30 fully syntheti oil only. Pretty sure that Castrol do not do a C3 Magnatec plus even though it says on the bottle Magnated is Fully Synthetic if you read carefull it actually says synthetic technolgy very different. Thus you probably topped up with the wrong stuff if you do have a dpf. DPFs are very critical of the correct oil being used in the engine the ash formed using the wrong oil will eventually block them but after only a top up it would be a surprise if it did make a difference. Dont tell the kia dealer what you did it would be the end of your dpf warranty.
I dont know I am just going by what the service schedule in my owners manual says. having said that this literature isnt always 110% accurate. Air Cleaner filter is the engine air filter granted its not the most dirty of track roads but it still can get progressively clogged up with dust. and since I dont drive in that particular remit the car previously was used for 20000 miles in one year by a kia
High guys well back on track its been an eventful 20 minutes first of all I got a call from Vejay of kia Head Office they advised that the warranty was safe because they replaced the oil filter - that was my primary concern as such any subsequent concerns need to be addressed to the dealer. Having spoken with the service team (who spoke to kia UK) they confirmed that in actual fact it is wrong that
intervals for oil are just 3k miles and you have to use mineral or semi synthetic oil as fully synthetic is just to thin and it doesnt like it. On my previous car (1997 Golf TDI) i did oil and filter every 6k miles which was half the recommended intervals at that used no oil at all between changes and had 190k miles when i got rid of it. However with my Pro i have a 7yr warranty so if kia
Where is the oil filter for ceed ls located please
Quote Originally Posted by ceedcrdi hey wonder what the plug in that picture There is a flap on the intake that is meant to close when the engine is turned off. It is not important while the engine is in good condition. Mechanics disconnect the plug when they change the oil filter (round thing centre picture) and forget to fit it again. Have a look at the picture in the 5th post in What is this Un-Plugged
Weve had both of our picantos serviced by an independent here in Coventry. (Vauhxsell Coventry). When I enquired the reception lady entered the vehicle reg into some programme that was on the computor and it came up with the complete kia service instructions with checkoff boxes. It also included a box for the paint check with a preprinted note This item may only be undertaken by a genuine kia dealer.
I totally agree with you AyJay....but on the otherhand twice in 40k....poor quality parts and should be replaced even if the oil and a few filters havent been replaced by kia for a huge amount of money. But i do agree its the risk i took when opting out of kia servicing. Anti roll bar bushes are causing the knocking this time.
The car mainly changes oil and filters on every service. The extra comes when you need to change brake pads and discs. Other than that is always oil and filters.
Quote Originally Posted by FrEaKZoIdE The car mainly changes oil and filters on every service. The extra comes when you need to change brake pads and discs. Other than that is always oil and filters. Quite a few differences between the even year services and the odd year services on the UK cars. The even year adds diesel filter air filter and brake fluid plus one or 2 other minor bits thats why the
Another service rip off is the service intervals which are too short for high mileage drivers. My last car was a Jeep Patriot 2.0 CRD. This was fitted with a VWAudi PD engine. In the Jeep oil change interval was 10k. The same engine in Golf and SEAT Leon was 15k and in a Skoda 20k. I reckon this was based on what they could get away with for each brands typical owners. Another laugh was the parts prices.
A new car should be able to go 27000 km without any sort of servicing apart from topping up fluids. -Not recommended of course but does indicate that the problem isnt service-related. Our Cerato has done about 35000 km and all thats been done so far amounts to little more than 2 oil changesfilters. -Was yours 27000 km or miles Maybe 27k miles would have been pushing it Has there been any plug-in diagnostics
thx for the help I took it to kia dealer and they will change the oil filter
If your engine craps itself and you happen to have changed the brake pads i doubt it would have any bearing on the warranty claim. However if you happened to do an oil and filter change with a cheap generic filter and the engine went bang 500 miles later they would be within their rights to refuse a claim. After all you wouldnt use OE tyres or wiper blades would you but you would expect a warranty
Actually he asks for help at the end there can I suggest a cattle prod (or gun) to the temple Getting back on topic collected our Pro_ last night after another fun blast in the sporty Picanto no surprises or extra charges no problems to report from their end they replaced oil & filter sump plug checked spark plugs cleaned brake disks with BCD spray () & did over all check then a full valet inside & out. Very efficient place Ill certainly stick with them in the future.
In the UK we dont normally get extremely cold winters and extremely hot summers. In continental Europe the temperatures are much more extreme at both ends of the scale and this can put an additional burden on filters oil suspension etc. I have seen other threads where owners complain that we in the UK are ripped of but it appears we are doing pretty well.
Ive had my turbo replaced a week ago. Ive got the 1.6 crd 115 bhp with 50000 kms year 2008. First there was a whistle a few days later the turbo was completely broken. No power and a lot of smoke. It is replaced for free. I only had to pay for new oil and filter. I got a replacement car for 5 days for free to. Good service.