...interesting question. Since my little 4x4 is clocking up the miles I wonder if there is one whether I should have changed it yet. Im a Mac and Firefox user so the ePER system doesnt work for me. Maybe you can take a look there though and see what it shows The online parts co at shop4parts doesnt list a petrol filter only diesel. Pete
Ive looked into a similar issue on my wifes Honda Jazz. The fuel filter is inside the tank. To do anything with it involves a hugely complex procedure to even access the tank (due to it being under the drivers seat on this car) and it appears to be something to leave for the life of the car or until a fuelling issue arises. I suspect that the same applies to the panda. Previously Ive been used to running
Hi guys. I checked with my local dealer who specialises in fiat AR cars. According to him our fuel filters are in the tank and there is no way to remove it... short of changing the tank doctorchris thanked for this post
Sorry sir cant find any data on a 16V petrol 1.2. panda. There is an 8V petrol 1.2 with 69PS form that sort of time same torque (74 foot pounds) as 60 PS unit presumably similar performance at bottom end. I suspect the extra power is achieved in a peak not as a flat gain but as you say little info. I doubt there would be very much difference in actual drivability or indeed fuel consumption in the real
As said above the only 16v petrol engine is the 1.4 100hp. The 1.2 is an 8v unit. The 60hp unit is a safe engine. If the cambelt breaks no engine damage. This is a soft power delivery suited well to town work but will handle longer journeys well but dont expect to hurry. Using lower gears for acceleration gives a little more urgency but mostly a little more noise. Its what Ive got and it is very relaxing.
Originally Posted by Most Easterly pandas Id disagree the difference between our 2009 1.2 panda and a 2013 1.2 VVT 500 is massive - both on fuel economy and performance both in the 500s favour and is the 1.2 vvt engine in your 500 IDENTICAL to the 1.2 69bhp engine available in the panda from 2010
FFS MPG difference is significant in 2500 miles in both - 500 was always 50MPG regardless of how driven and panda about 42-44 being driven economically and this I put down to the engine not the car. If being picky the panda is a Dualogic also and 500 was manual but book figures for DLs is always better for economy normally anyway. Its only an opinion from personal experience.
Thought about the gas but ruled it out because it would mean doing away with the spare wheel. The tank would be pretty small I would suspect. The closest place for gas is 11 miles out of my way and they are charging 70p a litre. So I need to find out if the gearbox on the diesel 4x4 in Europe is the same box thats in the petrol. Then well know if the gearing is the same.
Originally Posted by Toomanytoys I should imaine the gearing will be different as the D revs lower and produces its torque and power at lower rpm and more of it... you will need all the ECU etc too.. Yes LPG convertion will cost the 1300 but the fuel is less than half the price of D (54ppl - 123ppl)........ so that 1.2 38mpg means approx 76mpg running cost compared to the D... work out what it will
Hi All I was one of those interested in getting a diesel 4x4 over here too so much so that i contacted fiat about it last year and they let me know at christmas that it was a marketing glitch with it and that they were going to release the 4x4 in diesel this august. However as of today i phoned round most of the garages in northern ireland and they hadnt heard any word of its imminent launch yet and
Personally I think a 4x4 in diesel is a great idea Ive come from a big 4x4 diesel and had great fun with it a 4x4 should go offroad but with a petrol engine theres always the worry over soggy electrics Now a panda 4x4 in diesel with a suspensionbody lift and bigger tyres - ie KL71s of BFG MTs
Yep my 1.2 Dynamic seems to warm up quite fast but it will not pass thhe middle value on the scale. Only that the fan will work most of the time while waiting in line in the city. But its a nice engine. However if I were you Id go for the 100hp (not available in my country). The diesel is nice (my mom has one) one of the best Diesels on the market good mpg but... its a Diesel. Not so noisy but more
Ive driven all 4 engine choices... Ive owned the Multijet now just over 2 years so Ive had the Winter Driving experience. And yes indeed it does take longer to warm up than the petrol in Winter. You really dont get much in the line of hot air out for the first few miles but then again the first couple of miles from my house are all downhill off the go-faster pedal... I just stick a hat on for the first
Go for the Diesel petrol Diesel prices are virtually the same at the moment so for a little extra purchase price you will easily get 15% more range per tank so youll get your money back pretty fast. Performance wise Its faster to 60 than the 1.1 and 1.2 better on the motorways very quiet and should be cheaper to tax. Oh and it has better resale value too Biggest mistake I made was getting the petrol version
Looks like I might be the only one to prefer the petrol The 1.2 is a really torquey engine for a petrol you dont have to rev it past 3K to get the best from it as maximum torque is at 2500 rpm. It is also silent in operation and very smooth but the biggest difference is the weight. The diesel is heavier and it feels heavy at the front (as with most diesels) which makes it feel ponderous and not near
Never had it with any of our many fiats or heard of anything similar.
My panda once threw its toys out of the Pram and was a pig to start this was after being started when cold and then stopped very shortly thereafter. I now make sure I dont make that mistake -) Trev
Originally Posted by udtrev My panda once threw its toys out of the Pram and was a pig to start this was after being started when cold and then stopped very shortly thereafter . Ive seen something similar on the 500 - most likely down to the injection system overfuelling & flooding the engine.
Originally Posted by jrkitching Ive seen something similar on the 500 - most likely down to the injection system overfuelling & flooding the engine. Yes me too thought it should have stopped with the advent of fuel injected engines but apparently not.. Big difference between a flooded engine being too rich to burn fire and it actualy hydraulically locking though..
Have you taken the petrol cap off and checked for a wiff of Diesel...
Im going to drain the fuel out today (I have a transfer pump at home) - limped home about 1.5 miles in it - it seemed quite happy to run but only upto 2000rpm and 15mph unless Asda actually put diesel in their petrol tank Im sure theres not diesel in it and a phone call to the garage they said theyd not had any probs. yesterday morning.