Originally Posted by macmuckle ....My local garage (NOT a fiat dealer) fitted two new front lower suspension arms......... Yikes Have they fitted the correct arms Or are the things on upside down or something That doesnt look right at all - if they say its all OK Id seriously consider getting the AA or somebody to take a look those top mounts ought to be sitting down tight and central... macmuckle thanked for this post
The difference is that the 4x4 shockers have bigger holes for the bolts connecting the pillar so you may need to drill the pillars holes wider in order to fit the M10(are they) bolts to the 4x2 pillar Edit Mine (4x4) had modified 4x2 pillars on... Attached Thumbnails     __________________ fiat Forum Useful Links Donate to FF    Buy FF Merchandise    Classifieds    FF
Originally Posted by KevinAlexLB Does anyone know if the front springs and shock absorbers from a panda 4x4 will fit on a 4x2 I wish to increase the ride height of my 2WD panda to use in car trials any advice would be appreciated. Its a 1990 model with the Omega beam rear suspension. Thanks. httpwww.fiatforum.companda-class...6-pillars.html I hope this explains the difference in a bit more detail.
Yes the rear suspension is completely different on 4x2 and 4x4 - although (and I am guessing here) the original panda 4x2 had a live rear axle so springsshockers at the back could be similar to 4x4. My 4x2 has the later Omega beam set-up at the rear so would expect everything to be different.
no on 4x4 & 4x2 so think the modification on the holes on 4x2 pillar to fit 4x4 was to alter the camber angle. Bit of a crude way to give adjustable camber angle but it obviously worked The Eper lists the bolts for the 4x4 and 4x2 as being the same part number but the part number listed is for 4x2 only. The lack of a part number for the 4x4 bolts is an ommission in the Eper ( one of many ) that fiat
One member has fitted a Y10 anti-roll bar to his panda with excellent results (Sprox) and panda Sport has been after one for ages. Unfortunately theyre as rare as rocking horse poo though from what I recall theyre a straight swap onto a panda. carlt thanked for this post
Yup it was Sprox (Graham) who did it to his panda. httpwww.fiatforum.companda-class...ancia-y10.html carlt thanked for this post
What like that you mean I was under the impression that the 127 used an anti roll bar as the front tie rods much the same as the old MK12 Escorts did
front track panda - 1254mm 127 - 1280mm Cinq. - 1270mm Would guess they could all be suitably made to fit
Servicing shouldnt matter when it comes to suspension warranty
Either way its not the damper but the mount on the top thats failing so if it worked out cheaper I could have got that unit and changed just the mount. Its a panda Sporting so its a diesel the front springs and probably the dampers will be different anyway. (I wondered where that quote had come from as I couldnt find the original post)
Hi there Crikey thats a lot of front suspension parts for 110000 miles..... I am running a 2006 Multijet with 135000 miles (done em all myself as bought new) and Ive only just two days ago replaced the two front Anti Roll Bar Links. And thats it for front suspension in 135000 miles. But did get a pair of rear shocks done under warranty about a month after I bought it newback in 2006. Do you think there may be some factor thats making all your suspension wear so damn fast Im sure the number of parts you mention cannot be regular wear and tear. Or are you using it for rallying No offence intended by the way - I too am curious if someone can come up with an explanation - and advice for the new suspension parts. dannyfiatman liked this post
So far Ive found a lot of suspension parts to sub-standard in terms of quality. When i bought the car with 36000 the front shocks were leaking i replaced them with fiat ones just to find 45000 miles later they were leaking again The car failed its first MOT 17000 because of drop-links. The rest of the car is a quality product. Thats why i was wondering if other brands would give better durability. Obviously you get what you pay for
Sorry to hijack thread here but there seems a few of you guys have done a bit of an overhaul and im looking at similar. I have a decent knock when hitting a bump from the pass side whilst turning right. Any common issues there I was going to upgrade the suspension in the new year with some lowering springs and Koni shocks. Would you guys advise top mounts rack ends and wishbones whilst Im at it panda 100hp BTW. Thanks Dave
Thanks for replies and confirmation guys - Ive ordered same parts from S4P. Might need to see those pics Mike. Ive done most things on cars but never front struts before. Might do halfway in that I will remove but then get garage to remove the springs I changed the drop links fairly recently so hope they will undo. Pete
front struts are straight forward. 1) Loosen off the top nut on the suspension but dont take it off yet 2. Jack the car up 3 Remove the small metal clip which holds the brake pipe in the clip will break as mine did if its rusty and remove the pipe - remove the sensor cable too. 4 Undo the top drop link 5 Undo the two bolts on the bottom of the strut (pic shows only 1) and seperate the front hub fron
see my guide in the gp guides section it might be of use i think its a very similar process httpwww.fiatforum.comgrande-punto-guidesindex2.html Herts Hillhopper liked this post
or those who have worked on them. I need to replace the front shocks (110k miles bit worn now...) and logically the rubber top mounts too. Shop4Parts lists the shocks (which are 4x4 specific) at a great price. On ePer the top mounts have a different part number to the other models -- but I have a hunch that they may be the same part on all models. Does anyone know Nowhere (other I guess than fiat
well the panda imo wont get to the hight of an sj without major mods or serious dammage. 1. too much hight in front and youll loose your caster and risk to damage the cv joins 2. This will only rase the body but wont give you much more clearence plus the angle of the prop shaft will damage the ujs 3. Thats the way but agai youre restricted by the weel arches mud flaps etc... Any pics
Originally Posted by MICK-B Might seem like a silly question but the top mounts of the front suspension legs move backwards and forwards under the bonnet when the steering is turned left to right .Is the normal cheers Mick Noticed this on the 100HP - looks very odd at first.
Originally Posted by hot_fiat I may be wrong but I think this is to provide constant camber while turning. It is normal. Its more likely castor and that you can see it move due to the holes around which the top mounts sit. Nothing to worry about unless the whole top mount is moving around due to not being secured properly.
Originally Posted by isau22 Just replaced OSF control arm (or wishbone) on 2004 panda Active (MOT failure due to ball joint - DANGEROUS). Anyone know what the correct torque settings are for the two subframe bolts and the ball joint spigot clamp Or any clues as to where I might find them Thanks. Hello there isnt a REAL manual covering the panda BUT the Porter fiat book covers MOST of the technology..
Originally Posted by Liquid Knight Just a daft question but are you sure theyre the right way round and youre not trying to fit the drivers side to the passenger side for example Psst theyre identical in fact I think the only thing on the entire front suspension thats handed is the arm the track rod end balljoint connects to because of the taper. If youre having bother getting everything together I
Thank you very much everyone for your help. Have probebly saved me having to start a new thread called Spring exploded in face I will take to garage and get them to do it. Can I just clarify though that no one else has been able to buy the suspension as an all in one unit
Originally Posted by firstcar-Y10 Or option 4 ideal opportunity to buy some lowering springs usually short enough to fit without compressors (although youd still need to get the old ones apart to reuse the top mounts unless you renew those too) This is true my panda lowering springs just needed me leaning on them to be able to get the nut to tighten.
httpwww.shop4parts.co.uknamest...5474&sku13219 for a pair. The struts just unbolt from the hub (two bolts) and inside the inner wing (one nut). Pull the struts out from under the wing. Youll have to compress the spring with a couple of spring compressors and then undo the nut theres usually a hole for an allen key in the centre to stop the rod from spinning. httpcgi.ebay.co.uk2PC-CAR-COIL-suspension-SPRING-COMPRESSOR-CLAMPS-STRUTS-280547948335ptUK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hashitem4151f5f72f
Yeah cheers boss Im cool with the camber and CV problems (all makes sense). Im only gonna lift by 20mm (1) front and rear. Any idea if the strutsll take a 20mm longer spring
Originally Posted by Crashtest33 Yeah cheers boss Im cool with the camber and CV problems (all makes sense). Im only gonna lift by 20mm (1) front and rear. Any idea if the strutsll take a 20mm longer spring I happen to have an old 4x4 spring lying around here are its vital statistics. Inner Diameter 81mm Uncompressed length 370mm Bar diameter 10.8mm 10 turns However I think the better option is to