Hello and welcome dont forget to say Hi in the doblo section Charlie - Oxford
Originally Posted by triggy Hi New to this treat me gently. We chose the 1.4 petrol to avoid the nuisance of the dpf and flywheel issues with the diesels. Its a bit asthmatic and high revving but the basic unit has been been around for ages. B.E
Hi B E I bought mine for exactly the same reason The only thing is because its 1.4 its as rare as a Bentley. genuine parts are as expensive as well. All my friends have had all those usual problems with the diesel versions. mind you because of the low gearing the petrol economy is not good.
Originally Posted by triggy Hi B E The only thing is because its 1.4 its as rare as a Bentley. genuine parts are as expensive as well. look at the FF sponsors sites for parts great discounts to be had.. Charlie
Hi dobloanalyst Thanks for a full and considered reply. Yes I meant 1.3 multijet - stupid of me. A couple of points The design life of 160000 miles is interesting. My local fiat dealer says that there are plenty of fiat petrol FIRE engines about with that sort of mileage on them. Honest John of the Saturday Telegraph and www.honestjohn.com confirms this. Now my understanding is that diesel engines
consumption is around mid 40s. This engine is a multijet not too sure what that means but I believe other car makers use it in one form or another.......cant be all bad then Would it be a wise move to run with the 1.3 multijet instead of the 1.2 diesel Also are there different types of 1.3 multijet engines.....Active and so on. Which would the best 1.3 engine to watch out for. Ive owned afew fiats
Diesels always make sence. You dont have to look at the rev counter to drive it. Diesels are louder than petrols but not a lot. At motorway speeds diesels are quieter. fiat petrol engines are great but their JTD MJet units are superb
Originally Posted by viitorProprietardedoblo But its not only this. What about noises What about how the cars behaves in traffic Is it responsive enough Dont you get too tired paying attention to rpms I have yet to buy a doblo but I will surely go for the Diesel version although it will cost 4000 euros more .nl. Compared to the 1.4 petrol version it has better figures all the way. Besides the things
Originally Posted by Hellcat Diesels are louder than petrols but not a lot. LOL thats funny i cant hear my engine but in my mates 06 GP tdi is so much louder you cant hear your phone to use it (handsfree of course).
The 1.9 JTD engine is superb. Not sure about the 1.3 Mjet but the JTD works best 2-3000 rpm. I wouldnt bother with the 1.4 petrol its a good engine (my Dad had one in a Tipo many years ago) but was a little underpowered in the tipo and the doblo is a bigger vehicle and theyve added a catalytic converter which more emissions and lower mpg.
Be sure to take it on the motorway and make sure youre happy with how many revs its doing at 70mph as it will be more frantic than the diesel. Other than that my 2006 1.4 8v is very flexible and a good engine. It has a flexible flywheel which I think is Italian for dual mass but its probably under less stress than a diesel so hopefully it will last longer. It also has a steel sump mine rusted through
We live in Northamptonshire. Journeys to Devon the West Midlands and the Norfolk coast do not present a problem for us. Its not as quiet as a Mercedes but its a hell of a lot better than a Series III Land Rover Tyre noise seems to be the most intrusive but that may be the Firestone Multihawks we are running. engine noise seems to settle down as it reaches temperature.
If its the 1.2 fire engine like in the punto it probably willthe best thing is to try a fiat dealer parts deptive a parts cdbut didnt realise it was so out of date else i would have looked the part numbers up for you. if u still strugglin by the weekend give me a pm and i will find out for you. Regards Richie
im sure there was a clutch change in 2002so maybe better going for a later punto engine.
I have an ebersp whatsit space heater on my bus - takes about half an hour to heat up (ok so the interior is about 20 x 7 x 7 or thereabouts) and the heater really sucks up the diesel and its the same story across the whole fleet. One typically long run uses an average 14 tank but recently with the cold weather the same run uses about 38 with the engine and heater running for about 2.5 hours. Just
Hope I pressed the right reply button here goes Really appreciate the reply many thanks. I love the shape and practicality of the doblo and apart from this problem it is immaculate. I will be travelling about 5000 miles in Europe later this year and have a gut feeling I should have got a petrol version I starts first time runs very smoothly accelerates to max 30004000 revs clean no smoke. Only the
by running Bio Diesel through them. My other vehicle that had this problem twice is a 2001 Ford 2.5 non turbo engine (I never thought it would have this type of problem). It nearly died on me twice (no power) and I was recommended to try a diesel cleaner. A waste of time so I thought but it worked both times and I no longer use supermarket diesel in it and know problems. Early days with the doblo
Originally Posted by pauldr yeh as soon as mine comes back from the garage its getting swapd for a ( dare i say it ) a zafira I seriously considered a Zafira. Theyre about the same price as a doblo maybe a bit more but only if you go for the basic petrol model. I was put off after we hired one for a weekend and realised how small they are. The rear seats are only suitable for very small children so
If you are sure its exactly the same engine then I dont see why not. There will be different things attached to it but the basics of the engine should remain the same. How come its blown again
petrol engine in a Dobby. Doesnt seem right somehow
Dont know how it blew again allways check oil water etc and dont blast up motorways ( well cant really with a 1200 can i ). decided not to do it myself and taken it to another garage reccomended through trade. It is the same engine as the punto according to mechanic. It is a small engine for a big car but its never seemed to strain with all the familly in it going away with lugage allthough it was
PS. Looked at the berlingo and derivitives but think doblo is a bigger and better vehicle with more room for the bikes to go in and on somebody sugested fitting an oil cooler might help with blowing problem any ideas on this Supose i could allways change gasket allong with oil plugs and filters LOL Just a thought but if these engines allways blow gaskets shouldnt fiat have done a recall
I would not worry about it. It is considered safe to run 25% of petrol in a Diesel engine. I used to live in an area of severe cold and we had to put petrol in the Diesel to be able to run the engine at all.
Adding 25% petrol to diesel is a definate nono. It may have been alright years ago but with modern common rail engines 0% is the only safe option. Every year in Britain 120000 diesel owners fill up with petrol by mistake. Remember that its only the diesel fuel that lubricates the fuel pump & to make matters worse the sulphur that also lubricated has been reduced. There is an article on petrol in fuel tanks in the July 2005 Diesel Car magazine. A magazine well worth buying.
to mention when i said we lose power i meant it cuts out whether this is any different cheers Yes big difference That could be the crank sensor When it gets hot - the contact inside pull apart as it expands - no signal produced So the engine doesnt know when to inject or spark (dieselpetrol) and stalls Once its cooled down - it works again - no problems till it warms up again Idearly - Get the fiat
When I bought my 1.4 petrol wheelchair conversion I was advised that private low use best go for petrol whereas taxis high use go for diesel. As such I guess the diesels get more use and are more complex with dpfs and turbos however that does not mean they are less reliable just more likely to be encountering problems having done high mileages. I think the engine in my 1.4 is brilliant really flexible and pulls like an express train albeit one thats not moving very fast.
The 1.2 IMO is under powered for the doblo when laden or in MPV form however the 1.2 engine is proven and cheap to maintain as is the 1.4 which is much more lively however the diesel 1.9 (JTD not the D non-turbo model which has the god awful lucas epic system) easily returns 50mpg and slogs its way fully laden up steep hills. The engine is tunable and reliable the 1.3 diesel seems good enough but I personally havent done any long journeys in the car.
Hi all also had engine trouble. The light comes on then engine cuts out losing power steering and brakes AA called he recommended fuel filter replace. Did that and next day cut out again. Then wouldnt start waited ten minutes then started up again. Read about driving fast for a long distance to clear dpf. Ran at 70mph for 15 minutes on Mway light on and engine then cut out. Waited 10 mins on hard shoulder
Its the 1.4 petrol version 77 hp quite a lazy one. Theres no 1.6 available except for the 1.6 Diesel Multijet but only on the new 2010 doblo.
My amber light has has since came on a a further twice each time it went off after several restarts so its now time for the 07 diesel doblo to go This problem isnt unique to the doblo nissan diesel quashquis are having the same issues ifnot worse and their sales staff have been advised not to recomend the diesels to people who do not do reguler motorway millage. So I pick up a hyundai petrol tuscon next week to avoid the potential DPF issue so goodbye reasonable mpg and hello ...
Hi Andy. I have no idea about the conversion kit (my doblo is petrol) but perhaps the more knowledgeable here could help you. I do know of one taxi man who has a normal clutch and flywheel and he swears by it
Some doblos were prone to dodgy ECU shonestly cant remember year(s) or models.Ill have a wild guess at air flow meter Is it petrol or diesel
Thanks for quick replys guys Its a petrol... Today I tryed to start it and it was struggelin sounded as if a sparkplug or 3 was out of order... But when I (and the battery) was ready to give up the car just kicked on. And I made a nervous breakdown car drive to the fiat workshop just 2 km away. At fiat they immediately took it in had it on computer analyze for some 20-30 minutes then he came out and
So two different engines in two different cars indicate massive differences How suprising I guess someone will come along as state the Multijet in the doblo is more economical than the 1.2vvt in the 500 soon.
I read about Valvoline oil in a thread by Niall. I had it put in a couple of months ago. I was astounded at the difference. Everything is quiet and torq has increased. Almost sounds like a petrol car lol. 20 quid for 5 litres. I wont be using anything else now. Mind the car was going good anyway. It must be driven hard I find. Its not a town car at all.
hope someone hasnt put petrol in at any stageit sits on top of the diesel so only makes a racket when tank is low.Probably not but leave petrol cap off at nights and it will evapourate
You are lucky you dont have the 1.9 which takes a lot longer than that. Diesels are thermally efficient they dont waste as much heat as petrols hence more economical and less spare heat to go around the cabin. And the cabin is a big box to warm up too. There is no fix Im afraid. In cold countries they fit an auxiliary heater sometimes.