Dont know about the cylinder head question but its a good idea to give your location so people can recommend companies local to you
Just a guess but wouldnt maybe one of the bravo 1.9 heads fit
Welcome to the forum eastcoast it might be worth you making a post down in the doblo section to see if us guys down there can help you
Just had a brand new head fitted to my 1.9D. What a difference.
The torque settings are as follows- Cam cover M6 screw 1 (daNm) cylinder head M126.5 909090 that is 90 degrees Precombustion chamber Ring nut M35 12 This information was taken off my electronic workshop manual.
Firstly Id like to welcome you to the forum (Im Ozzie the official greeter ) I will have a look round for you to see where I can find you a cylinder head. LUKHYGO in the mean time
thanks mate big help
So far Ive only come across THIS and THIS website which claims it can make new or re-manufactured heads for almost any vehicle including light and heavy commercial so might be worth giving them a try. Whereabouts do you live as I might be able to find you something closer
cheers for the help mate may have to try one of those links as i still have no look. i live in bham by the way
Sorry matenot forgotten...too tiredcontact you tomorrow
Originally Posted by fido Im just doing the head gasket on the 1.2 petrol doblo. I have a service manual CD and it states the initial torque for the head bolts as 2 da Nm. I know what newton metres are but what does the da bit mean The da is short for deca meaning ten. E.g. 2 da Nm is 20 Nm. If you think about it 2 Nm would be a very low torque setting I dont know about the rest sorry. H
Thanks H Ive worked in science and engineering for 30 years now but thats a new one on me
If the link works this is the bit in the manual Im on about httpphotobucket.comalbums1003f...doblobook.jpg
Surely a cylinder head gasket has a limited life & would only have a warranty of three years at the most. I must admit though that in 33 years of driving Ive never had a head gasket failure even on cars that have done 250000 miles or that are over 10 years old.
Originally Posted by doblo Surely a cylinder head gasket has a limited life & would only have a warranty of three years at the most. doblo The sale of goods act says most things must have a life of 6 years if it is reasonable for the goods to have lasted that long. As engines are designed for a longer life than 6 years it seems to me that an integral part within it should also last longer. My monies with Obadiah at present but would still like to hear from others.
Sorry for the delay. This question was asked last year. The torque settings are as follows- Cam cover M6 screw 1 (daNm) cylinder head M126.5 909090 that is 90 degrees Precombustion chamber Ring nut M35 12 This information was taken off my electronic workshop manual.
Originally Posted by doblo Sorry for the delay. This question was asked last year. The torque settings are as follows- Cam cover M6 screw 1 (daNm) cylinder head M126.5 909090 that is 90 degrees Precombustion chamber Ring nut M35 12 This information was taken off my electronic workshop manual. Thanks for the info i have had to strip the engine down to find that one of the big end shells has disintergrated
Usually The cylinder head will be cracked and then it is scrap.. The head That Is
hi foxy i believe that the stilo 1.9JTD engine is similar to the doblo unit however there are a number of factors to take into consideration when making comparisons. for example - what year is your engine mine is a 2002. why are you wanting to test the compression what fault is present a pressure reading of 350 to 400 psi would seem to be good for my engine. this is measured cold [ie engine has not
windows and i have 140000 on the clock starts first time and run great Sorry I seem to have caused confusion here. I am trying to to confirm the point about the 1.9 ordinary diesel engine - is yours the ordinary aspirated 1.9 engine or the JTD at this point I am only after the experience of owners who have had the ordinary 1.9 engine. I now know that the JTD is a better engine I am assuming the fiat
Yes I think the head gasket- cylinder heads are the main problems with these engines. Maybe that is why the previous owner got rid of the car. Ive had mine from new so I know its history & faults but to be honest I would be very reluctant to buy a 2nd hand non turbo doblo having read this forum. If I had problems with mine & now that its out of warranty I would keep well away from fiat garages. I normally
doblo has the 1.6 Multijet engine which spins very freely (16 valves) and is reputedly a reliable engine and the DPF is improved because it is integrated (built into the cylinder head) and so warms up quickly whereas the earlier ones are down on the exhaust pipe somewhere and run cooler unless the car is driven hard regularly. The 1.3 Diesel is as you say used on lots of cars - as are the other fiat
1.9 jtd dynamic 33months old 80000 miles. Bottom pulley wiper mech. rear suspension rear door lock side door contacts tracking controll arm track rod end injectors removed and refurbed egr valve cylinder head removed and tested valves cleaned and reseated new turbo gearbox oil seal both inner drive shaft oil seals both outer driveshaft boots diskspads and finally brand new engine at 54000. ( After 4th time of having engine out of the car ) doblo off the road for a total of 70 days. Will I buy another fiat What do you think
Originally Posted by doblo BAZ 1.9 jtd dynamic 33months old 80000 miles. Bottom pulley wiper mech. rear suspension rear door lock side door contacts tracking controll arm track rod end injectors removed and refurbed egr valve cylinder head removed and tested valves cleaned and reseated new turbo gearbox oil seal both inner drive shaft oil seals both outer driveshaft boots diskspads and finally brand new engine at 54000. ( After 4th time of having engine out of the car ) doblo off the road for a total of 70 days. Will I buy another fiat What do you think So what you doing on a fiat forum
The reason the engine revs up on its own even of you turn it off is that it is running on the engine oil because there is too much of it and it was getting into the cylinders somehow. We have had this before with turbo diesels although for a different reason- the turbo seals go and it gets to a point when they have gone so much oil gets into the cylinders through the inlet then it ignites and the engine reves up. The faster it revs up the more oil pressure so the more is sprayed into the engine. Eventually it will stop when all the oil has gone but then it may have already done damage to the internals due to lack of oil. My advice would be to get the engine stripped and inspected but I would say that it may have partially siezed and the crank shells ect will prob require looking at. Also it has more than likely blown the head gasket due to the massive pressure in the cylinders from being filled with oil. Where abouts are you I run a workshop working mainly on fiat and we would be happy to take a look at it for you. Cheers Rich.
Hi mini I have seen several doblos with heads cracked after overheating. Was your cylinder head hot crack tested and skimmed If not and you cant find a leak and the cooling fan is operating ok then I would have a chemical test carried out to confirm if the head needs to come off again.
Hi. Remember that if you have a misfire in only one cylinder the problem is going to be a coil HT lead or plug or even a blown head gasket. The reason I say this is each coil feeds two cylinders with a simultaneous spark one on the firing stroke and to the dead cylinder on its exhaust stroke (al a Citroen 2CV). Is it always the same cylinder If so try swapping the two HT leads on the coil pack feeding
Hi Niall - the symptons on Mrs G doblo sound very similar to my now poorly Kia Sedona. It used to use approx. 2 litres of coolant per 500 miles and got progressively worse. When it was topped up clouds of white smoke bellowed out of the exhaust. As the coolant level went down the white smoke deminished but the heater in the car was none existent. Guess it was running on hot air rather than hot water.
Sorry youve not enjoyed your doblo experience fido but I have gone into this eyes wide open and know doblo is better than competition for my purposes anyway. Not sure which one you have but by cylinder head gasket failure makes me wonder whether 1.9D non-turbo which is a poor engine known for problems JTD s and subsequent Multijets are different beasts altogether.
No mine is actually the 1.2 petrol. I did the head gasket myself and was not impressed by the engineering For example there is no automatic tensioner for the cambelt and the head gasket itself is a very basic item with no reinforcing collars round the cylinder holes. The doblo is cheap to buy new but like most things you get what you pay for.
Originally Posted by fido No mine is actually the 1.2 petrol. I did the head gasket myself and was not impressed by the engineering For example there is no automatic tensioner for the cambelt and the head gasket itself is a very basic item with no reinforcing collars round the cylinder holes. The doblo is cheap to buy new but like most things you get what you pay for. The 1.2 petrol in the doblo like
Hello ive just been reading your problem with your Wifes doblo. Ive just bought one and mine is overheating but only after a short time. Ive had the R.A.C out and a mechanic both have said it looks like the cylinder head gasket. So Trevor whos the mechanic has taken everything off but theres no damage to the gasket but the head has gone to be skimmed. But im not convinced this will fix the problem
Originally Posted by nec Your symptoms sound the same as mine and on the same engine which points to a head head gasket failure. In my case pressure escaped into the water chamber and put the whole cooling system under pressure to the extent that coolant blew out through every connection under massive pressure. The hoses fet like baloons about to burst The fiat garage would not try to repair same
At last after having the head Skimmedpressure testednew gasket fittednew boltsnew cam belt and tensioner it doesnt overheat anymore. Trevor the mechanic has done a brilliant job. He put it down to the head gasket on the doblo is of a metal construction therefore it doesnt seat into cylinder head. He pointed out it wasnt seated correctly on number 4 piston which means the tinyiest of gaps would result
Hi Psytek Wipers sorry cant offer any help other than a visual check of the cables going to the wiper motor. Coolant Sounds like it could be contaminated. When Mrs_Gs doblo was suffering from coolant lossoverheating the guy that does all our servicing used a kit to test a sample of the coolant. It shows if there are any combustion products in the coolant from a blown cylinder head. Might be a good first move.
mmmmmmm doughnut.....nom nom nom My thing about these conversions is say (for example) you need work done on the cylinder head its unlikely the garage ould touch the LPG system so would you have to get a LPG specialist to remove all the LPG stuff then transport the car to garage for cylinder head work then do it all again in reverse