may have answered my own question as I checked and got this info from httpswww.sapmotorparts.com fiat Seicento 1.1i 0300-1200 Injection fuel pump QFP701 &16371.35 0.5 No Notes 1108cc40kw54hpOHC176B2000 fiat Punto I 1.2i 0198-1098 Injection fuel pump QFP701 &16371.35 0.5 No Notes 1242cc54kw73hpOHC176A8000 fiat Punto I 1.4i 1093-1196 Injection fuel pump QFP701 &16371.35 0.5 No Notes 1372cc98kw133hpOHC176A4000
702 ones (150 grmin) as i am expecting about 120hp. If you are going higher use Punto GT ones 280 150 701 (187 grmin) but be prepared for bad emissions at idle. Multiply by 1.15 to get cc min from the above grmin. Remap is inevitable need to alter ignition timing too if you want to keep exhaust temps under control at 0.5 bar. Attached Files Boschdyser.zip (36.4 KB 21 views) __________________ fiat
Originally Posted by markp38 Hi Im fitting a Lancia delta Turbo motor into my X19 and im using the fuel tank and pump from a fiat cinquecento sporting to go in the front boot. Does anyone have a wiring diagram to help me wire the electric into the pump also the fuel gauge and confirm the fuel out let and fuel return pipe (they both look the same) Also whats the best upgrade of pump which will fit straight in Cinqs fuel tank to increase the fuel flow Thanks Mark In the downloads. Cheers D
coupe 20vt one (yet to fit so might not but looks right).. Was also thinking of a impreza wrx pump shouldnt be to hard to find as it seems a popular upgrade with the drivers.. If you wanna buy a brand new one though you want to get a ITP050 from httpwww.fuelsystem.co.uk see the price list here and yes its the one on a rs2000 among others.. see this thread (from bout half way through)- httpwww.fiatforum.comcinquecento...f-my-face.html
Originally Posted by kritip The mpi sei pump is in the tank and also contains a filter and regulator (3 bar). As you will have an external regulator and return rail (the mpi sei doesnt have or need this) and an external in line filter I dont think it makes any sense to use the mpi one imho. Use one of the others Kristian Not 100&37 accurate the pump on the Sei MPi is fitted in a system that is return
I did the same thing with a spanking new tank httpwww.fiatforum.comcinquecento...fuel-tank.html TBH tho mines not had any problems the pump sucks fuel causing a negative pressure in the tank Id be tempted to clean the surface up and change the seal anyway. but are you sure that the leak is coming from there do you know that the new tank is 100% sealed when you tighten the nuts up after changing the seal do it CAREFULLY they dont take much to snap them. GrumpyOldMan thanked for this post
3.5bar fuel pressure you need that much i know when my grale was mapped from 210-250bhp the fuel pressure was raised from 2.5 to 3.2bar as the grale pump is adjustable but this was all done with a gas analyser just seems really high. i thought it was 2.5bar on MPi s. Aaron.
this bit was tempted to try and get the whole thing swapped over as the punto pump seems to have a better gauge sender unit. oh well though Attached Thumbnails   __________________ . 1368cc 16v cinquecento .   Quote   23-05-2006   9 SkinzCinqSporting MG ZR Owner )   Join Date Feb 2006 Posts 2942 Thanks 5 Blog Entries 8 Trader Rating 2   Re P85 fuel pump into a cinquecento tank
Originally Posted by custard boy is a new fuel pump part of the novitec kit New fuel pump (this one with tis green thing) is standard fiat Palio 1242 MPI fuel pump.
see here httpwww.fiatforum.comcinquecento-seicento33982-new-pump-fitted.html
Originally Posted by GhostWKD i think he meant the seicento 1108 mpi fuel pump mabey and he is wright but Ive got SPI fuel pump. Today Ill try to fit fuel pump from fiat Palio 1.2 75hp Mpi without oryginal fuel filter I asked about it in the grage and they said that oryginal fiter is not nessesery if I have that standard big fiter from Cinq.
at 0.5bar which makes you wonder why so many actually lasted as long as they did either that or the performance claims by VAD were on the optimistic side which i think they were due to fact 0.81.2bar (that is the variance on standard car) fuel pressure in 0.6bar turbo boost equals no fuel and therefore melted car. Yes that is correct pump ITP050 and its a direct fit for the Walbro pump fitted by fiat
Its a 3bar pump. like i said ive run 1bar without any fueling issues. The other pump in the car that used to be turno is from an fiat coupe 20v turbo ... same pump. I bet all the pumps of this design are pretty much the same.. there is no reason to manufacture a pump for each car when its the FPR that controls everything I dont even think the regulator needs messing with. the fiat coupe 20v turbo pump
and only controls pressure. Bosch -- for example -- make fuel pumps rated at anything from 60 to 200 lph. Equally most modern injectors are measured at 3bar -- but the output varies wildly Id not take it on faith that a pump supplied for a 75bhp engine can provide enough gas for one producing twice that. BUT as i said... ive ran 1 bar of boost with no problems. the fuel pump is the same as the fiat
Originally Posted by craigb244 I highly doubt the pump that is 60lph is the same size as the 200lph. You would be worng then the Walbro 255Lhour pump on my integrale is same size as the Cinq SPi pump. Though I do agree that is unlikely that there would be a massive amount of different pumps though there are different part numbers for many fiats httpwww.fuelsystem.co.ukInj-pump...t%20160708.pdf I believe Bosche only make about 6 different pumps that cover something like 90% of all cars produced.
i use a 255 welbro pump. can be picked up for well under 100 and is probably the best you will get. can pump fuel faster then any fiat will be able to use. when i fitted mine and bleed the system. the old pump used to pump fuel out the pipe as a nice little stream about 6 inchs long... when i bled the 255 it shot fuel at least 10 foot into the air... which was scary
yep. it came with a weird connector on the other end. cut it off connect it to other end of the fiat pump wires. tested the new pump in a jerry can and a fpr cranked right up. left it for about half hour at 5 bar (more then it will see on the car) pumping out plenty of fuel. and stayed cool. just like the welbro when i did the same test before fitting it a couple of weeks back lilmrwilliams thanked for this post
I have fitted a Walbro pump which is normally found in a Ford Escort RS2000Sierra 2.8V6 XR4X4 etc in a Spi turbo Cinq. I have also experimented with the built in regualtor and it can run upto about 1.8bar before locking out therefore no matter what pump you fit it will never run more than this it may flow more litres per hour but never higher pressure. The fiat manual states that the regulator is set
When my sister bought her cinq it had a screaming fuel pump. I just changed just the pump motor not the entire assembly and that solved the problem. If you change the pump motor in the assembly to take the pipe of the pump motor output you will need some clic click-R hose clamp pliers like the ones pictured. Its nothing difficult fiat use these clamps on nearly everything and they work well. CLIC
Hi Scuderia Firstly do you really need to remove the stock tank They are not that big and are very low to the ground. I am just finishing my Sei Track car. there are a load of pics you might want to see httpwww.fiatforum.comcinquecento...back-road.html If yor cinq is still on single point injection then it should be a 1 bar pump. They are high flow and low pressure. The pump you have found should be
Originally Posted by signwerx Hi Scuderia Firstly do you really need to remove the stock tank They are not that big and are very low to the ground. I am just finishing my Sei Track car. there are a load of pics you might want to see httpwww.fiatforum.comcinquecento...back-road.html If yor cinq is still on single point injection then it should be a 1 bar pump. They are high flow and low pressure. The
Got my new Cinq today so no worries on fixing the old one. Id say Ill swap around parts and should have a neat little runaround at the end of this fiatsco Its MOTd till next Sept so no worries on that. I think it may be the relays though I havent checked the crank sensor however the last time the fuel pump didnt work it was in a fuse to those relays (in little black box behind ECU ) qouting from 4.8
Originally Posted by clock34 the little canister things are identical in all fiat pumps iirc. just the big fat black pipe coming out then a big and small spade on top. it will fit dont worry just needs the pipe going on and the two spades -) i just done this cento wires to the pump are black and red p75 pump are balck and green so i guess green red tryed to start the engine and nothing i then took
fuel pump delivery rate....... 110 litreshour (minimum there is v.slight variance) Definately. cinquecento............Its not the size its how you use it
Originally Posted by spedo Before you suspect the submerged fuel pump in the tank you should consider replacing the fuel filter located under the vehicle. This filter protects the the injection system from dangerous tank sediment that builds up in the filter over time. If the filter is restricted this would account for your fuel starvation at higher revs. The next thing I would consider is the breather
Fingers is correct about the TDC however the fault you have raised looks towards a fueling problem as a more likely cause. Firstly and as a matter of course I would replace the fuel filter if a blockage in the line or filter is detected many pumps will open a pressure release valve at 7 bar or above and release fuel back to the tank your filter could be as old as the car. You have already started
Id forget about the resistor. Ive only experienced fuel surge on one cento -- a 1242 Cinq with sticky tyres and the stiffest suspension known to Centokind. Engine would cut dead when doing sharp turns with less than a quarter tank of gas. I remember someone (maybe Craig) saying that it had to be down to an issue with the fuel pump as it had some kind of built in swirl. I didnt think this was the case
Actually it turned out that the pump wasnt the entirety of the problem. I replaced it only to find the car still wouldnt start. fuel pressure is good - reading 3.1bar at the regulator instead of 1.2bar which is what I was getting before when the pump decided to kick in for a while. I cleaned the crank trigger up and suddenly it worked up - I found a chunk of rusty metal had stuck to it. The engine
Originally Posted by J.R Racing Never had a problem with mine and have been running a highly modified 1242 16v for almost 5 years now. Thats on a standard Seicento MPI 3 bar bump (same part number iirc as Punto Mk 1 7575 and GT). Using a Punto Mk 1 fuel Rail with the FPR on fuel rail. The only faff came when running a return line back to the pump housing but not a fault of the pump itself. Only gripe
The fuel pump feed will only be on for a few seconds if the engine isnt turning. This is to stop fuel being pumped out of a leak if there is a crash. This is controlled by the ECU . I think that a failed crankshaft sensor makes the ECU think that the engine isnt turning so there will be no sparks and no fuel pump either. If you turn on the ignition the fuel pump will come on for the few seconds then
hi fingers thanks for the suggestion but the red elbow on the car is cracked and leaking due to spanner rash caused by my brother helping to take the busted pump out so need to put the red elbow off the replacement pump on the fuel line . also to get the cut line off the the elbow that is ok .on replacement pump. got the pump second hand off e bay.
Mine is the standard sei mpi pump no modifications as i think though not 100% Emmas is as well. The pumps are regulated in the tank. They have a return that just dumps into the tank again. Im not sure if the pressure is adjustable. The pump does not have any feedback etc. It just pumps lol You NEED a returnless pump of sorts if you dont plan on adding a return line. as these are regulated in the engine
Originally Posted by StoneNewt I made a plate up that mimics the top of the stock fuel tank I has a connector for the new fuel pump & a pipe that is fed to the bottom of the fuel tank. The vent out pipe needs to be open & connected to a one way valve to let pressure out else you get positive pressure in the tank & when the tank is low this can have explosive problems in the worst case. PS. Anyone thought