First as far as the starting is concerned there seems to be a general starting issue with the t-jets at certain temperatures -5..5 degrees Celsius. This is the second winter since i bought my bravo and it always behaves the same at those temperatures. Most of the time it starts well but wants to die for a few seconds. After that its great. Second Did you try to run it on petrol did it do the same thing
so to keep you guys posted today I went to the fiat mechanic that I usually go to and I had a conversation with him regarding my morning startup of the car. He said that they never update the firmware of the car unless the customer demands so. But he noted that they get weekly updates from the factory regarding news or problems in certain cars. So he sad that he can hook up my car to computer which
I took a look at the flashing report and here are some numbers injection ECU Bosch Motronic Me7.9.10 fw update version 9.18.0 fw update is solving following problems - problems by starting cold engine BTW It seems fiat has lot of troubles with firmware in more ECUs in this car. Also the odometer starts flashing every once in the while. The climate control unit had strange behavior from time to timer.
So the update on my car is Yesterday I had a few problems regarding shaking of the engine and not pulling as it should.Even at idle the car was shaking. After coming home I left the car and said I will see what the problem is. After an hour I sat into my car and started it. After running it for ten minutes I we got a check engine message. I took it to the fiat mechanic and they diagnosed P1172P0300P0304.
flat battery...how old is it
Thanks for the reply but as said it turns over fine so not a battery problem its more of a miss fire until eventually jumping into life after a few attempts. thanks anyway
I have heard this problem and some similar cod start problems. I have even started a thread about it some time ago see what others have posted httpwww.fiatforum.combravo31124...5-seconds.html Some others have complained about difficult starting on cold-ish mornings (0-5 degrees). On my T-jet it usually starts ok but after starting for 10 seconds the engine might want to die.. or after getting moving it will loose power.
Thanks for your reply I have checked out your thread . But this problem seems to be different once it starts there is no problem with the idle .
where about is this distributor thing located and is the starter at the top right of the engine on the bravo or is it located at the bottom
The bravo 1.6 doesnt have a distributor does it If the battery is new and the alternator is fine then check for a good electrical earth contact at the battery and engine. Its pretty cold so it puts the biggest strain on batteryalternator and starter motor at ths time of year so poor electrical connections anywhere there wilol show up. Once the car warms up then the dampness disappears so end of problem
thats what i was thinking with the motor that if its dead its just dead but i notice a pattern today when it refuse to start and if i put back the ignition to off and if i turn the key in the ignition fast it start first time always so it seems like there maybe power lost somewhere. and also twice i saw the key code stayed on and didnt go out on start. I want to rule out all other before i change the
ok i took it to the garage turn it off and tried to start it and it was having problems at the garage starting so the guys at the garage checked it and said its definately the starter motor. so i will get it change on thursday and tell u guys how it goes.
This thread is for the current bravo you could ask a mod if they can move it
Originally Posted by Marcos999 This thread is for the current bravo you could ask a mod if they can move it httpwww.fiatforum.combravo31579...a-threads.html Marcos999 liked this post
Injectorlight ecu knows something is up. Get the codes and it should tell what is wrong. Is it flashing when you crank If not then it is nothing too serious (mainly the camsaft sensor). Cranksaft sensor is on top of the starter between engine and firewall fixed with single bolt. Is it a 147 or 155 engine
Im assuming its this 155. httpwww.ebay.co.ukitm321129169825 If it wasnt so far away from me I would have been interested in buying definatly would have viewed it. It sounds like the crankshaft sensor. I think Neverth said everything. Some people report that when the crank sensor fails the car will start from cold ok but it will not start from warm. Looks like it could be a good buy. Cant go wrong at that winning bid its scrap dealer money.
I reccomend to read fault with fiat tester. You can also measure resistance of ignition coil.
Found an old thread that may be of help to you. httpwww.fiatforum.combravo-brava...g-problem.html
Its been some time since i looked at a fiat but if memory serves there isnt alot to the basic starting system to get the starter to spin. What was removed when you changed the belts did you check the cambelt hadnt slipped (although this wont prevent the starter spinning) please detail any electrical items you may have disconnected like the altenator there is i believe an earth loop from the starter to the alternator if this hasnt been reconnected you woudld have issues...
Originally Posted by Andysan Noticed that the bravo has been more reluctant too start in the last few months put it down to the cold weather and not remembering to double glow. This morning however i didnt glow as the temperature was pretty fair and it took a good ten seconds before it started accompanied by a bluewhite cloud of smoke. Also the car has used a bit of oil for the first time ever. Car
Hey man thanks for the comment. Double glow - as in turning to ignition stage 1 to power the glow plugs (twice) before starting the engine. And yep I do usually depress the clutch when starting.
No worries mate. There was a thread a while back about starting issues one comment was about the glow plug relay wiring been faulty causing the starting issues but the person who made the comment never replied to questions.
is battery ok if so sound like the solenoids not workin on the starter motor