if the noise its making is like a ticking noice (very fast) it could not be the starter motor. Weve got a crappy battry in our Hyundai Atoz and each time it falls flat it makes a fast ticking noise. First time it did it i thought it was the starter motor playing up. But later on we found out it was the battery. So try maybe checking for any loose connections to the battery maybe. Or maybe the battery
Thanks for the advice but I dont think its the battery as sometimes the car would start after trying a few times. Im 90% sure the starter motor is at fault as you can hear it spinning but not engaging..so probably a faulty solenoid on the starter motor. As its not my car I dont want to get involved fixing it unless it is fairly easy to change Cheers Dan
The only thing i can tell you is to be careful to find the same type as your car already has because fiat from the first version bravo -brava(1995) till 2001 versions has changed 3 or 4 type motors and they dont fit all the same as the wire connector also changes to types. I tell you that from personal experience
no i was wrong appears to be the solenoid in the starter. help Met Cognac 99 brava 100 HSX what do you want cupholders open door warning light grow up
its a bit of a bstard to get at the starter. do you reckon the starter is servicable haynes manual doesnt say what to do im not too familiar with starters what exactly does the solenoid do is it possible that my motors contacts are bad and its landing on the bad bit every so often Met Cognac 99 brava 100 HSX what do you want cupholders open door warning light grow up
is there a certain type i need will any fiat starter motors fit into it (im not very good with cars yet as u can tell lol) Attached Thumbnails   __________________ fiat Forum Useful Links Donate to FF    Buy FF Merchandise    Classifieds    FF Insurance    How-to Guides    FAQs   Quote   12-03-2006   8 welho Get Your Own Title Join Date Jan 2006
Just an update on this. Have bought a second hand starter motor from a 2001 brava this is a Bosch unit the original one is Magnetti Marelli. On the Bosch unit Ive noticed that the centre bolt hole of the three is blanked off with a locating plug. The supplying breakers have said this will fit my brava however has anyone used one of these units before and do they fit Just wondered before I take the old unit off. Thanks for any help.
The problem must be the starter itself or the electrics earthing not anytthing else on the car.... I had a similar thing on a 1.4 Tipo which is basically the same engine below the cylinder head and may even have the same starter.... After going round the houses and swapping starters between identical cars an autoelectrician checked it carefully and found that where the body is held together by 2 long bolts the thread in the tapped receiving hole had stripped and the unit was not held together tight enough. On starting the thing would twist and then not work properly. I cant remember if the 1.6 Tipo starter was the same as the 1.4 or a bit beefier... similarly the 1.6 Bravo engine is pretty similar to the 1.4 lower down so that starter might fit your car.. Dig around eBay.. there are recon units on offer and you should learn about compatibility... or ask fiat .
It sounds like a starter failure maybe its given up and jammed against the flywheel starter ring. That could be why one bolt wont release try pushing the car in 1st gear or hitting the starter bolt with a hammer. Once the starter is out rotate the engine and look though the starter hole to see if the ring teeth are damaged.
motor is another matter pictures attached of the damage. Also didnt have to jack up the car bottom bolt i laid on the floor to remove and the rest done from the top just in case someone else needs to change the motor at some point. New one on order and should be with me Tuesday. will let you know how it ends. many thanks for your support. Attached Thumbnails     __________________ fiat
Hi there i have a brava 1.2 16v here if you still need a starter pm me or email me at tellfiataol.com Cheers Trevor. CFREITAS thanked for this post
Originally Posted by jeffas hi how hard is it to change a starter motor on a brava td has mine not doing nothing at all not clicking or spinning Just to be aware i had the same problem last week turned out to be my batterry and the battery connections so i would check that prior to replacing the starter motor.
you need the 1.6 starter motor. you can take it from any age 1.6 bravo brava or marea. i believe the 1.6 stilo also uses the same starter motor but i cant guarantee that.
Originally Posted by merlino Hi Could anyone tell a novice the degree of difficulty of changing a starter motor on a 2000 bravao 1 2 3 4 5 or should i get it changed by a mechanic please help me. With 5 being the hardest and 1 being the easiest its a 3. You need some axel stands as youll be working from under the car and you may need to remove the battery tray airflow meter throttle body and relevant
speaking of starter problems i think my solenoid has had it. cant even find the starter will look at haynes book later. is swapping one over difficult Met Cognac 99 brava 100 HSX what do you want cupholders open door warning light grow up
yeah itll be the starter motor if it does nothing at all when you try to start. obviously if the engine is turning voer when you try to start it then the starter motor is doing its job and it must be something else (usually crank sensor)
i am currently having this problem in this lovely cold weather we are having. the motor is turning the engine but very slowly like a flat battery and is still the same with a brand new battery fitted. could it be moisture in the starter is frozen and making it sluggish. average temp round here has been -8c Also is it possible to remove the starter without raising the front off the ground. not possible due to 1.5ft snow and parked on hill. any help really appreciated. thanks. richard
The moisture thing seems a bit unlikely to me. Try either a jump jumping car to dead car jumping car - to dead car chassis earth (or solid metal part of engine) Orand try a single jump lead from battery -ive (on your car) to near the starter motor (your car). Winter shows up bad batteries and poor earths (and 85% of electrical problems are probably bad earths).
thanks for the tips fingers. have tried your suggestions and it is still the same. could this be the starter beginning to seize or something. if i take the plugs out she will turn over but still slowly. not as fast as it should. think i might just have to get a new starter. she just wont turn fast enough to fire.
replacing the sensors isnt hard.although you may be better getting a diagnostic done at fiat . costs around &16350 IIRC but may save a lot of guesswork. could be the starter motor is worn or dry and is causing resistence hence the slow starting. if oyu can get a multimeter put it across the battery with the engine runnig to read the voltagethen with loads of electrics on and see what voltage the alternator is putting out.
id buy a haynes manual if youre unsure. or download the fiat manuals here httpbabarmalik.comledmods.htm it really is as easy as youd expect. you disconnect the 2 wires remove the bolts (3iirc) and then remove the starter motor.
yep what Bridges and Jug said if you get the car in the air and get under it get yur head up behind the engine at the back of the engine bay. the starter motor is bolted to the gearbox by 3 13mm bolts usually 2 on the starter end and the 3rd is usually through the gearbox into the starter. wires should be a 10 mm bolt and a 13mm bolt the 13 being the live so tape it up once disconnected to stop it
yes it will fit but please make sure its definately your starter motor thats the problem and not simply a bad earth strap from gearbox to chassis a flat battery a rusty connection on the starter motor dirty battery terminals etc.
Cheers Jug Maybe you can offer a bit of advice....... I had a look at some of your replies on similar threads and i must admit Im not convinced it is the starter motor but...... Its been playing up for a couple of months it started with just not starting first time. After cranking for a couple of seconds it would start second time. Was like that up till SUnday we went shopping in it on Sunday afternoon.
Originally Posted by zippybluebrava Its been playing up for a couple of months it started with just not starting first time. After cranking for a couple of seconds it would start second time. it cant be the starter motor if the starter motor was turning the engine. Originally Posted by zippybluebrava We tested the power off the alternator with a multimeter 14v does that sound about right yes it should
dont worry i have a collection of parts ive taken off and not put back on think of it as a lightened race starter motor
Thanx jug - noone else seems to have an answer either including main dealers. starter still starting
Originally Posted by NDarby Can anybody tell me how long it would take to change the starter motor What is entailed Neil I would say it would take 45mins to 1hour. But may take a little longer if you have a 1.8 as you need to remove some more components to gain access to the starter motor. If you dont have a 1.8 then all you do is 1. Disconnect Battery negative terminal. 2. Apply Handbrake & Jack the
Originally Posted by Dobby apparently that is whats causing Barney to scream and grind at me sometimes when i try to start the engine. Went in yesterday for the starter to be replaced but turns out to be a starter ring something about the teeth I dunno but is this an expensive repair Also how much can i expect to be paying out for a rocker cover gasket and a manifold For those who dont know Barney