Visit the bestlinks thread. Do a browser find (control f) for zionsville hit the browser next button to go to the next link (F3). End result - Zionsville is EXPENSIVE but it will last the life of your car. - You may have to retrofit some parts so its not a perfect plug and play. - But its cheaper than three radiators over time.
Try this one.....its half the price as the Zionsville. Not sure if its as good but way better then a stock plastic one and for 599.....who can complain. httpstore.vacmotorsports.comradiators-c196.aspx
yup its metal aluminum like the rest of it. and i know i was pissed they wouldnt replace it. im surprised they want anyone out there with a faulty product of theirs. im not trying to badmouth them now but if that thing ever explodes i wont stop ranting. they pretty much rely on their reputation of being bulletproof even now there are two threads about their radiators active today.
Personally if I had a V8 I would consider the pricier radiators but they are really pricey compared to OEM. For an I6 OEM worked fine for me. If you pay half attention to your cooling system you should be able to catch problems before things explode on you but YMMV.
Sounds good but its a bad idea. bmw engineers designed that pressure in the system for some very good reasons. Not the least is to keep the water tight against the coolant passges surfaces in the cylinder head. Otherwise the transfer of heat to the water from the head especially around the exhaust would make the water boil at the microscopic level preventing the water from touching the coolant passage
Ive got 185K on my car. And its driven hard in the heat. No problems. I wrote a post earlier in this series about why bmw uses a higher pressure. If your radiators are exploding you got other problems. Lowering the pressure is treating the symptom and not addressing the root problem. If Im not mistaken some of the new or about to be new bmw models run even higher pressures. Good luck in your adventure.
Quote Originally Posted by franka Ive got 185K on my car. And its driven hard in the heat. No problems. I wrote a post earlier in this series about why bmw uses a higher pressure. If your radiators are exploding you got other problems. Lowering the pressure is treating the symptom and not addressing the root problem. If Im not mistaken some of the new or about to be new bmw models run even higher pressures.
Search the forum for RADIATOR it appears that a lot of 540s have same issue as my old 750IL did. I am not taking chances with my 2000 540IA. The zionsville radiators are beautiful but the price is ridiculous compared to market prices for aluminum radiators (check www.JEGS.com) . Just because I own bmws is no reason to rip me off. The cap trick appears to work I will keep you updated if it does not.
Why the hell are aluminum radiators so damned expensive for bmws When my Camaros radiator blew I got an aftermarket aluminum one for less than a stock plastic tanked one about 100. I know bmw parts will never be as cheap as GM parts but roughly 3 times the price of an already pricey OEM for one with aluminum tanks is nuts 1000 for the one from Zionsville is just mind-boggling. Theres nothing special
Quote Originally Posted by Tangent Why the hell are aluminum radiators so damned expensive for bmws When my Camaros radiator blew I got an aftermarket aluminum one for less than a stock plastic tanked one about 100. I know bmw parts will never be as cheap as GM parts but roughly 3 times the price of an already pricey OEM for one with aluminum tanks is nuts 1000 for the one from Zionsville is just mind-boggling.
an aluminum radiator for our yuppie latte fetchers and yogi class carriages All the old school aftermarket joints that build stuff for say Jeeps Camaros Mustangs etc have TONS more aftermarket volume than us. We only have 8 years of E46s on the road MustangsCamaros have 40 years just between them. Quote Originally Posted by Tangent Why the hell are aluminum radiators so damned expensive for bmws
Quote Originally Posted by a572mike Im beginning to collect parts to do my cooling system. Has anyone seen one of these Mishimoto aluminum radiators Its less than half the cost of the one from Zionsville Autosport. httpwww.mishimoto.combmw-e46-per...tor-99-07.html I have seen the Mishimoto units in many different cars they all looked to be great quality and Mishimoto is awesome with their warranty.
There are some aftermarket aluminum radiators that arent quite as expensive maybe something like mishimoto (I think thats your spell it).
You guys are hilarious... A) From a thermodynamic point of view there is no difference between the OEM bmw radiator or a Mishimoto Zionsville or BimmerWorld all-aluminum radiator. This is because the core of all modern radiators (the part that dissipates heat) is made of aluminum . Yes this means that the functional part of the OEM bmw radiator is made of aluminum just like the Mishimoto et al. The
I chose the OEM plastic one when I did my cooling overhaul because a reputable bmw indie shop told me that radiators lose their efficiency over mileage (clogging deposits bent fins) and that a radiator should be changed every 100k regardless so getting a radiator that costs more than 3 times as much as OEM and has a usable life for only 30-40k more miles doesnt make sense. Others will refute this Im sure but this is only what I have been told.
Mishimoto radiators are about 240 and OEM BEHR radiators are about 160 so thats a pretty big price jump (although both are cheap in the grand scheme of what a radiator can cost for some cars). If you flush your coolant out annually that will help reduce sediment buildup andor corrosion. Regarding fin damage when I replaced my original radiator this fall it had 100k miles on it but had absolutely zero
Ive used Mishimoto radiators before. I used to have one in my 240sx until I moved up to the bmw world. I had it in there for id say a good 50000 miles (college days so back and forth from home-school every day) it worked perfectly- kept the car running cool was easy to install and made the engine bay a lot nicer looking as well. Plus they do away with having to simply buy another radiator after 100k
Jen although the link you provided does have good info it is regarding the debate between aluminum radiators versus the old copper & brass radiators. Im pretty well versed in that topic because of my 66 GTO. E36s have always had radiators with aluminum cores its the plastic versus aluminum side tanks that were concerned with here. Copper & brass radiators probably havent been used since the 70s.
Cool beans Dustin. Ill even toss a sticky on this for ya and see how many folks can save a few bucks on their radiators. It is interesting that they give a lifetime warranty...very interesting....
Quote Originally Posted by Schnell5 I desperately need to do this thanks for passing along the great service from the company. I am playing with fire with my stock radiator at 79K miles. So Nissens or Behr. Anyone have a Nissens that can comment In my limited experience My behr had the ringed groves to hold the radiator hoses on this is where many of the radiators break. My new nissens has smooth necks - these are suppose to be stronger and address the breakage issue.
Whats going on with ye old panda that its demolishing radiators
One thing to remember is that you noted that a bag caught your fan and sent parts into one of your past radiators. Getting an aluminum radiator definitely isnt going to eliminate that risk. You might also look into getting one of THESE .
If your looking to upgrade your cooling on your E36 Give your vehicle a cooler more efficient running engine by installing a performance Mishimoto aluminum radiator. These radiators are a direct replacement to the factory unit making it an effortless install and provides up to a 30% more cooling capacity. Made from aircraft quality aluminum these radiators have a dual row core and polished end tanks.
Hey guys I need a cheap aluminum radiator that fits my 97 328i vert with auto trans. Many on the cheap ones such as speed daddy and eforce say they are for manual only. I have already taken the old rad out -- detaching the stock trans-cooler in the process -- and I see of no reason why the radiators they are selling wouldnt work just fine in my automatic. Anyone used these at all auto or manual transmission httpwww.ebay.comitmDUAL-CORE-FU...eRpttrueshId or httpwww.ebay.comitm160897483880...84.m1436.l2649 or httpwww.ebay.comitm92-98-bmw-E3...648bbf&vxpmtr I am also aware of the Mishimoto () but need to keep it cheap for now.
did not apply enough force. One solution is to slightly crimp it more with a pair of vice grips. My Nissens Radiator is fine one year later absolutely no problem. Go to Volvo forums those folks love Nissens radiator. So....we need a poll more than an anecdotal case of JimLev. i agree that there should be more examples httpforums.bimmerforums.comforum...d.phpt727732 dagoo httpbimmer.roadfly.combmwforumse398360574-1.html
Quote Originally Posted by cn90 This is anecdotal experience. When evaluating a problem the methodology is important. A poll or statistical survey is a better way to evaluate this. - if one walks in a hospital one thinks the entire popualtion is sick.... - out of one hundred light bulbs you buy some last 2 hours some 1000 hours. - one person blows out a Michelin tire does not mean every Michelin tire
Division Nissens AS Ormhoejgaardvej 9 DK-8700 Horsens Tel 45 7626 2626 Direct 45 7626 2760 Mobile45 2171 6745 E-mail dkpnissens.com httpwww.nissens.com ----- Forwarded by Dorte K PetersenNissens on 15-04-2007 2339 ----- 13-04-2007 2330 To dkpnissens.com cc Subject Nissens Radiator Leaking. How often Dear Ms Petersen You might want to look into this problem of leaking from Nissens radiator for bmw
Hi CN90 and Chivas I should hang out here more. CN90 is probably correct about a bad batch of crimps resulting in the leaks but from July 05 to the 3rd one I got from them in Jan 07....WTF. I did get an email reply back from Nissens after the second one leaked they pretty much blamed the car and not the radiator. Last Sunday I emailed Nissens after the third one leaked after I had driven the car less