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Hi Im having the same problem please someone help my vito has been to 3 different garages and auto electrics and still no joy this must have happened to someone else and its got to be a easy fix but just undescovable.
Problem found the wiring to the solenoid had a melt down near the fuse board.
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Thank you very much for the thread HarryHardHat - best information I replaced the starter motor on Friday and not only did the problem disappear but the engine turned over twice as quickly with the new unit. This I thought was a good indication that a knackered starter motor was the cause. But I am aware that the relay in the starting system can be a problem and that even with a new motor it could
Oops just thought Id look at your other posts & Ive found another thread where you say you fixed a relay power problem (which I assume was for this same fault - I havent read all your posts yet). So maybe that is my answer. But on the other hand it sounds like it may be a different fault to mine with similar symptons. Im not sure that if it was a fault with my relay that the starter would suddenly
That way Ill get the chance to try out what is probably the easiest of the checks which I havent tried yet bypassing the power relay as described in the other thread. Ive mentioned this fault a couple of times while Ive been at different local garages over the months & without actually looking at it they both said it sounds like the starter motor - though they obviously dont know about this vitos
Gday all. Malcolm Ive got a 2008 model Z750 its a great bike (bright orange) heaps more reliable than a merc vito. Ben Z I just wanted to let you know what i think was happening with my van a year ago. I had an issue where intermittently my van would not turn over. I would turn they key and just hear a click under the passenger seat (AU version). I got a cheap replacement starter motor off ebay swapped-it-in
it will spin but no fire put battery on charge for a few hours (while still connected to vehicle ) re bled fuel line (vacum pump on return line ) to get all the air out changed the o rings in the pressure reg ( thing that lives at the gear box end of the fuel rail) checked cleaned all plugs and wires that i moved got local diagnostic guy over to check codes and fuzes he could not read the ecu mercedes
it will spin but no fire put battery on charge for a few hours (while still connected to vehicle ) re bled fuel line (vacum pump on return line ) to get all the air out changed the o rings in the pressure reg ( thing that lives at the gear box end of the fuel rail) checked cleaned all plugs and wires that i moved got local diagnostic guy over to check codes and fuzes he could not read the ecu mercedes
Right looked at your guide and am going to get circuit tester now. So far things replaced.... starter motortwo starter relaysclutch switchimmobiliser de-activated. Baterry has plenty of charge and been tested. Will let you know how I get on with your by pass. Looks the only way other then that Im thinking of running a cable from negative on battery to an earthing point in engine.....
Right had my mate whose an electrician testing the relayshe came to same conclusion as your electrician Harry. The positive feed was getting there but the switch was not activatinghe took relay fuse out and using some 4mm house wire held it on positive battery and held into one of the positive on relay boardit starter engine but was also still feeding starter once started we then went frm battery to
hi all one for martin if thats ok...... hi all the drama i have continues in a short version.... drove vehicle to my work shop stopped it replaced 4 washers under injectors reassembled and tried to start .... it will spin but no fire put battery on charge for a few hours (while still connected to vehicle ) re bled fuel line (vacum pump on return line ) to get all the air out changed the o rings in the pressure reg ( thing that lives at the gear box end of the fuel rail) checked cleaned all plugs and wires that i moved got local diagnostic guy over to check codes and fuzes he could not read the ecu fuzes ok he could not read the ecu and as we tried to start it again will spin and with some engine start down the intake will run with starter still operating or with engine start it seems that we are not getting any pulse to the solinoids ontop of the injectors while cranking removed the immobliser box and got it checked with the key all ok has the ECU died also is there another box or relay there where is it what is a dme relay where the hadies does that live i really am at my wits end and the petrol can a lighter and a rag seems so apealing but its a customers car and i cant.... any one help mercedes benz vito cdi110 year 2000 built for asian market in spain chassis no vsa638 ....
remain protected with only short runs outside of the loom. It also gives more flexibility to locate wires where they are needed. The worse bit....running the loom for the dash controller....first i decided on a location then removed a million pieces of plastic and then drilled a hole in the bulkhead coming out near the relays....this is the most awkward and time consuming part if you have a vito
battery is good. I was thinking it might be a relay under the seat that could be part of the starter wiriing or does this only apply to Auto transmissions (mine van is a manual).
This is exactly the fault I had . Followed the photos above although my vito a 2002 220CDI Auto looked different around the Battery fuse box area. Firstly the starter relay in my wagon is black and is the relay closest to the Passenger door (RHD vehicle). The wire is still yellow and black. Cut it further back in the loom fitted an eye terminal and connected straight to the battery. This does not
Hi ya looking through the wiring diagram the one thing it does show is that the immobiliser is wired through the glow plug relay and uses the glow plug light as an indicator that its doing its stuff. Have you noticed anything different with the glow plug light when it wont start as opposed to when it will. The other thing that is on my mind is a knackered starter or wiring fault to the starter. Do
Ive had this problem too. Only happens on very cold or damp mornings. ive changed the starter motor the original one was sluggish still did it. I noticed if i held the key in the crank position for up to 10 seconds it would start to crank. I changed the ignition barrel & lead & the starter lead from the battery as the terminal was corroded. Still does it. Checked the wiring diagram & found there is
New starter motor. Cleaning and lubricating the starter motor solenoid and related mechanism could help temporarily. If it does start occasionally it is not the starter relay or the starter relay fuse.
Quote Originally Posted by Diesel Benz New starter motor. Cleaning and lubricating the starter motor solenoid and related mechanism could help temporarily. If it does start occasionally it is not the starter relay or the starter relay fuse. Thanks for the info.
Hello Nige Im having a similar problem according to the wiring diagram ive got there is a relay that stops the engine cranking when the engine is running. Its controlled by the ECM this sees that the engine isnt running energises the relay to allow the starter circuit to work. Ive got the relay to change but I cant find it anywhere on the van Theres no regular pattern to the problem but its always cranked (& started) after a couple of mins of switching the ignition key on & off. Ugly
Quote Originally Posted by tog21 Hi Thanks for the reply mate. I have been doing this as a rule but it just keeps giving me the same problem. I went out to the van now after it being parked for 2 hours and it did the same thing. put the key in waited for the plug light to go off try to start and nothing. Not turning over at all. All the interior lights indicators etc work as I tried them. But I know
Sounds like the solenoid give the starter motor a few belts see if starts then you say a clicking sound is it a relay clicking or does it sound like the solenoid...you may need someone to turn the key while you listen up front.....for safety sake make sure its in gear and youre standing in front of the van on a cliff edge... Definately the battery...no question....the old one isnt holding its charge get a new one.
wouldnt say i lost all faith in him but i did mutter to the wife he aint got a clue WRONG Just as the word clue was leaving my mouth I heard the engine start The guy(fantastic mechanic at this point) had got the sense to check where the house keys had travelled and found that one of the afforementioned relays have been knocked loose by the keys MORAL - definately checkout these relays if your vito
Thank you Guru. I have had an intermittant starter fault on the vito which I traced to said relay. The relay pulls over on position 2 but flickers as soon as position 3 selected hence no current to the starter. I tried a new relay which behaved exactly the same then worked out that both sides of the relay coil are connected to the ECU (CR) one terminal showing 12ish V with respect to ground the other
I have found the previous post on fitting a single passenger seat (Should have checked before posting i know) so am sorted there. I am however looking at fitting a leisure battery and split charge system and could do with a little info here. I have chosen to fit a voltage sensing relay unit to provide split charge to the starter battery and the additional leisure battery. They units have an Amps rating and I dont know what rating I require. Can anyone tell me what rating I need for my X Reg vito 112CDI alternator Thanks in advance Tim
is attached to one of the lines. If you can run biodiesel a few tanks will clean out the tank the injectors and injection pump but will almost be guaranteed to clog the filters with crud built-up in the tank. Be aware most of the fuel lines are not high % biodiesel tolerant (i.e. B50 and B99) and this needs to be kept to a few tankfulls or replace with non-OEM fuel lines that are higher spec (vitonFlourocarbon