I tired to do the front with the same spring compressor but it didnt work. The long bolts kept hitting the spring mount. Also the spring hooks on the spring compressor would turn so they werent equally the same distance apart on each side of the spring. I just gave up and got the MB spring compressor. YouTube - mercedes Lowering Springs Install
Quote Originally Posted by NYTM89 u c the thing is guys is that i want to do my own repairs and etc without really having to go to a mechanic if i can mostly do the basics. whats the best cost effective way of really getting under my car ] like say replacing a driveshaft flex disc you know I am in Ft. Lauderdale and whenever you want to do some work on your car let me know I can help out. I will be doing springs and shocks some time this summer. We could have a south Florida 190e fix it day.
Yes. Same suspension setup.
Quote You dont need spring compressors for the front end. so you are saying I can pull the LCA bolts like the rear and pull the spring. I was thinking about that but it seems that it would be very hard to line up 2 holse perfect. I did this on the back and it was cake. I just paid MB 191 to swap my fronts yesterday. I dont have the correct spring compressor and the one I was using took for ever.
Quote Originally Posted by ChrisFball I have this current set up on my car for more than a year. H&Rs on the front and stock springs in the back. I will say that the ride is bouncy in the front and mushy in the back when going over bumps or having people in the back. I really have no issues other than the ride. What youve got on the rear of your 16V is a lot closer to matching the H&Rs than any of the other 190s would...
What I noticed is when just replacing the fronts and running stock rears the back end felt light when pushing the corners hard. So I went back and cut down the rear coils 1 12 twits (from the top). Now it feels stable. In a stock setting there is always a larger wheel gap in the front. Its just the way the fenders are cut and designed to look. By trying to match front to rear you are throwing the balance
Thanks for the information - sounds like the H&R fronts w sagging rear (the 190s not mine) may not be the best solution.
Interesting found on Ebay ..just pass it onLowering or Drop Springs mercedes 190E 190D (300389703190)
Or can any body give me information (parts numbers diagrams etc) on the evos front and rear SLS system thanks
Hi There are two different systems 201 has SLS on front and rear axle with levels setting function. 126 has hydro-pneumatic suspension with levels setting function. The main differencies is that 126 has only hydraulic struts but 201 has coil springs and shock-absorbers with self-levelling function.
It cannot be done at home unless you have a ball joint press available to say the least. Even then unless youve done it before it is not recommended for the first timer. Your mechanic can buy the ball joint seperately or there are available entire lower arms on the aftermarket (but these are really unecessary To replace the lower ball joint the old one must be pressedknocked out and a new one pressed
I have done it myselph. It is bolted to the hub carrier and pressed into the wishbone. To remove the old one you can use a large hammer to knock it out while supporting the wishbone from below but I would recomend a special tool or a press to install the new one (what is the point of installig a new joint if you hammer it it). I instaled mine with replica of a mercedes tool ilustrated in the workshop manuel without removing the wishbone. Good luck...
According to the numbers on the diagram the faulty ball joint is 10726 and it fits into the end of the wishbone 10974. Taking the front suspension to bits is no problem for me - I have coil spring compressors and stuff. What I couldnt see was how the joint fits to the wishbone. I can buy a ball joint over-the-counter at the local mercedes parts dept real cheap and I can buy a new wishbone real expensive
All numbers in the picture are from Lemforder parts catalog (cheaper but also deutsch quality) Part number of the ball-joint 124 333 03 27 Part number for the left Track Control Arm wishbone 124 330 30 07 Part number for the right front Track Control Arm wishbone 124 330 31 07
Ball joints do not make for a good first DIY project... But nevertheless I spent the past 2 days tearing apart my passenger side suspension to fix the squeaky joint. Turning is much quieter now and I feel like the steering wheel is much tighter. I still need to replace the Drivers side joint but Im going to hold out till I get new shocks and do it all at once. I had an impossible time finding a spring
I had the same problem and I changed my sway bar bushings in the front and no more squeaking but before replacing the bushings I had the sway bars repainted because in the spots where the bushings are mounted paint had flaked off which i thought might have added to the squeaky noise. Hope that helps
Here is a coilspring compressor for mercedes. The one made in the U.S. is 600 the Taiwan shown was just bought by a buddy on the W126 for about 180. There might be places to rent though.
Quote Originally Posted by chuck1960 I have a spring with front shock ready to install. There is a smaller spring 12inch approx. long - near the front. I have junk yard dealer who claims it doesnt exist. Any place near Kitchener (near Toronto) that has that spring Thanks What year is your 190 I only see the one spring.
1993. 2.3 Smaller spring near front bumper.
All 190s have only 1 spring per corner.
All 190s only have one spring per corner unless the PO modified it with coilovers or something.
Thanks Guys. To hell with multilink suspension... what about an....alignment
Your front end shouldnt be that loose that you can push it so far down with stock springs even if the struts arent installed. It sounds to me like you may have the wrong springs on the car dunno what else there is though...
Well they fit perfectly just seem too soft Before they were installed I could compress them just a bit on the garage floor with my 230 lb body weight. Maybe they sent me rears as fronts Are rear springs shorter These were pretty long out of the box.
Quote Originally Posted by RetroScott Well they fit perfectly just seem too soft Before they were installed I could compress them just a bit on the garage floor with my 230 lb body weight. Maybe they sent me rears as fronts Are rear springs shorter These were pretty long out of the box. Rear springs are an incompatible (smaller) diameter. I almost wonder if they sent you 2.3 springs or something. Do
Stock ride height although it looks low in the front because of the springs.
Ball joints... fix them...ASAP If the ball joint fails the entire front end will collapse. I personally wouldnt drive the car till the ball joints were fixed. WARNING Failed Ball Joints - 190 Revolution