A modern common rail direct injection engine only requires pre heating when the ambient temperatures are well below freezing. There is a light on the instrument cluster which indicates when the engine is heating and it goes off when it is ready to start it will only be on for a second or so at normal UK temperatures and you can start the engine as a petrol engine. As the ambient temperature drops the
Quote Originally Posted by boyweevil Hi This is probably a dumb question but I have never had a diesel. How should I use the engine preheating - manually every time Is it automatic What temperature should it be done at What are the consequences of not doing it Thanks Hi boyweevil.the manual suggests u crank it within 2 seconds of the light going off.it will nearly always start cold(depending on how
It depends how cold it is. The UK is not usually cold enough to cause starting problems. It has to be about -10C or below before I bother with pre heating and my car starts instantly. Have a look on Youtube for Cold start diesel there are some extreme weather condition starts shown most not relevant to modern diesel cars. -)
The modern DI diesel engine does require pre-heating in against a standard DI diesel engine They have lowered the compression ratio on the modern engine in a car so not to be noisey and use the turbo to get the air in against high compression ratio truck engine to create heat hence the introduction of a glow plug for each cylinder and not in the induction manifold Another way of doing it is to temporary
Smellmet Honest Johns states standard kia ceed diesel is 50mpg and with a auto its 34 mpg and kia customer services state you loose about 20% with an auto. There is away to get more fuel consumption at 60mph and that is do not let it go into 4th gear and keep the engine at about 3000 rpm which is wrong for a diesel
Quote Originally Posted by derek c Smellmet Honest Johns states standard kia ceed diesel is 50mpg and with a auto its 34 mpg and kia customer services state you loose about 20% with an auto. Derek The OP is looking at a 115 P model the figure you quote of 34 mpg is for the 128 bhp version. The 115 bhp vesion has an Honest John figure of 41 mpg which is pretty much 20% less than the 50 mpg for the manual
I put a chip on mine & reckon to get 45 to 50 mpg (the chip may well induce a slightly false reading) I live in a rural area so not often sitting in traffic jams etc I rarely brake (especially harshly) as I dont drive too close to the car in front & read the road. I dont accelerate harshly either I use the cruise control whenever it is practical I find the engine to run most economically cruising at
up on bhp (horsepower) its a calculated figure for which the formula was derived when steam engines were invented so that people could visualise how powerful they were everybody know what a horses looked like. You cannot measure bhp what you measure on a dyno is what an engine produces i.e. torque you divide the torque figure by 5252 and multiply it by the rpm the torque is achieved at e.g. in a ceed
Quote Originally Posted by ceed3 Many modern turbo diesel cars have their torque limited in first and sometimes second gears thus all the power you have purchased is not available until The thing that ultimately prevents the engine from producing full torque will be wheel spin. It is inherently self limiting. A front wheel drive car can only accelerate at about 0.6g due to wheel spin. If it weighs
Quote Originally Posted by johnfranklyn Enjoyed reading you&8217re posting ace Demon Much appreciated Quote Would I go back to petrol now it&8217s a big No But I have to admit the sound of a sporty petrol engine still thrills. To each his own I suppose. When I last changed I would have preferred to have stayed with petrol. The trouble is the market the ceed is in is short of decent engines. When I
Quote Originally Posted by kiaceed Dont really feel the need to justify my credentials but if its helps whilst training as a mining engineer we obviously studied motors which for underground use were 99.9% electric with the occasional diesel loco. The formulas for calculating motor sizes required etc were obviously part of the course as was the conversion of torque to power. Back in my day we talked
Modern diesels dont rely on glow plugs to start as much old technology diesels did before direct injection and common rail technology. At -13 they probably did have an effect but at temps down to jsut below freezing they have little if any effect. And once the engine has stated they will have no effect on the running at all. I would get your fuel filter checked. It should be replaced every 2 years. With regards to oil if your car has a dpf it should be filled with C3 5w30 fully syntheti oil only. Pretty sure that Castrol do not do a C3 Magnatec plus even though it says on the bottle Magnated is Fully Synthetic if you read carefull it actually says synthetic technolgy very different. Thus you probably topped up with the wrong stuff if you do have a dpf. DPFs are very critical of the correct oil being used in the engine the ash formed using the wrong oil will eventually block them but after only a top up it would be a surprise if it did make a difference. Dont tell the kia dealer what you did it would be the end of your dpf warranty.
White smoke is unburnt fuel and I agree with Spencernj check each glow plug SWceed modern DI diesel engine with common rail do require glow plugs for they have lowered the compression ratio to take away the noise thats why there is a glow plug in each cylinder and not just one in the induction manifold Pull the lead off each glow plug and put a meter on it no reading duff plug.
Quote Originally Posted by derek c White smoke is unburnt fuel and I agree with Spencernj check each glow plug SWceed modern DI diesel engine with common rail do require glow plugs for they have lowered the compression ratio to take away the noise thats why there is a glow plug in each cylinder and not just one in the induction manifold Pull the lead off each glow plug and put a meter on it no reading
i run my all diesels i have and owned with about 300ml 2 stroke oil per full tank for years with good results. i buy 50 liter drums what will last a long time. every service i do i use injector cleaner to clean the engine.
Using two-stroke oil in modern common rail engines is a really bad idea. Two stroke oil cannot handle the extreme pressures in the injection system and is destroyed. It also destroys some of the lubrication additives already existing in the diesel. If you have a DPF extra oil in the diesel will destroy the DPF causing expensive repairs. The diesel available in Europe is of standard EN590. One of the
full tank for years with good results. i buy 50 liter drums what will last a long time. every service i do i use injector cleaner to clean the engine. I cant see the merit in doing this. Two stroke oil is for adding to petrol. diesel is already a thin oil (but then so it petrol really). I would be very wary about adding anything to a modern diesel car. However I have used Millers EcoMax to my ceed
Hi I would like to ask if there is any problem with the gear change from on ceed 1.6 diesel as i have great difficulty sometime changing from 1st - 2nd gear. Question 2 Also I am finding I cannot drive at 30MPH in 4th gear as the engine labours too much and my mph is only 45mpg is this a common problem.
Quote Originally Posted by fidget Good afternoon. I represent a site ceedonline.info . I have access on technical site kia motors. If there are questions ask. Hello I do not know if I can ask you but I have a problem a few weeks with my ceed. I state that the car is under warranty so I explain the problem. About three weeks ago suddenly after inserting the key into contact the display came on the icon
A torque converter the part that fits between the engine and gearbox on a traditional automatic (like the original ceed) is normally 100% reliable for galactic mileages. For 3 to fail within a short period there has got to be something else causing repeat problems. At this point I would expect kia to be sending one of their Techies to the garage to see what they are doing.
Quote Originally Posted by FrEaKZoIdE - DPF (only a few 115 have it and all 128 have it) Every 1.6 ceed manufactured from approx September 2010 had a DPF fitted. Every diesel registered in Europe from 01 January 2011 had to be fitted with a DPF no exceptions. Although its fair to say kia sold more 1.6 diesel ceeds between the introduction and late 2010 than they sold 115PS models between late 2010 and the introduction of the new model they still sold more than a few.
One thing that this and other postings on other forums does make clear to me is that people should only buy diesel engined cars if they are suited to their driving needs not just because they do more miles per gallonlitre of fuel. Once upon a time this was easily avoided because the diesel engine would cost so much more than the petrol unless you really did longer journeys to justify the extra engine
Quote Originally Posted by Eric12 One thing that this and other postings on other forums does make clear to me is that people should only buy diesel engined cars if they are suited to their driving needs not just because they do more miles per gallonlitre of fuel. Once upon a time this was easily avoided because the diesel engine would cost so much more than the petrol unless you really did longer
From memory none of the UK 1.6 diesel engines (U1 or U2) have the DFP fitted but the 2.0 litre diesel did have a DFP. But of course this is no longer available in the UK and was dropped when the facelift 2010 ceed came out.
Quote Originally Posted by d3matt From memory none of the UK 1.6 diesel engines (U1 or U2) have the DFP fitted but the 2.0 litre diesel did have a DFP. But of course this is no longer available in the UK and was dropped when the facelift 2010 ceed came out. Then I am puzzled I have a 1.6 CRDI 115bhp - Can anyone confirm how many silencers I should have as it has already been mentioned a diesel doesnt
Quote Originally Posted by kiaceed Be very careful when working on modern diesels the fuel pressure is incredibly high (1800bar which is over 20000 psi) which will damage tissue and blind you if it gets in your eyes. Not a concern with the filter (attached to the bulkhead). This only applies to rigid pipes at the front of the engine.
Too much torque is never enough Seems that you dont need it so much at idling speed. Looks like an auto transmission would be the best choice for this type of engine. I have a friend who has a Mazda diesel with 6-speed manual transmission gets RSI from continually swapping cogs to keep the engine rattling along. BTW I think its suspicious that the spelling is DIE SEL although it does help you to remember the spelling.
Quote Originally Posted by Spencernj I do note that the kia is one of the slowest cars I have known before the heater produces any heat. Dont know if that due to it being an ecodynamics or not. I dont know about the ecodynamics model but my 2010 diesel ceed has three PTC heaters built into the climate control system and produces warm air almost immediately after a cold start.
Quote Originally Posted by Spencernj I do note that the kia is one of the slowest cars I have known before the heater produces any heat. Dont know if that due to it being an ecodynamics or not. Our ceed heats up faster than any other diesel car we have owned. If you want slow try a Mondeo TDCi or a Focus TDCi. Petrol cars always heat up faster but since they use more fuel which as it burns produces more heat I guess that is logical.
Quote Originally Posted by sugard4u When I shut down the engine (I have 1.6L 128BHP turbo diesel engine) of my 2014 Proceed I hear series of short sounds coming out of the engine .. its always the same series of sounds and it lasts for 3-4 seconds. All perfectly normal. Ours has been doing it for 3 12 years. Other non kias I have owned have done similar things.
Oddly the kia brochure quotes that the 1.6 gets to 60mph just 0.5 secs faster than the 1.4. I do think that the 89bhp engine does feel a little underpowered at low speeds but at motorway speeds it really is quite nippy. Mine is generally much more brisk now I have 8k miles on the clock. My wife was following me in her 114bhp turbo diesel & struggled to keep up. Her car actually feels quicker due to
There is clearly strongly polarised opinions regarding add-on boxes compared to remapping my first conversion my Seat was a remap the others add ons. I see no real difference if you get a good quality box. My ceed uses a DTUK Green Eco 3 box my Fabia a CRD2 box from the same place - diesel Tuning UK LTD Improved diesel Performance Digital diesel Chips . I highly rate both. They are easily removed
did a dyno before and after mine 66kw (90bhp) dyno - 88bhp 222nM - after ecu remapdyno 138bhp 283nM 85kw (115hp) engines goes to same results as its all the same except ECU restrictions p.s. now pls could anyone tel me why all the tuning box companies etc adverts that 66kw (90hp) ceed gains only to 118hp and 115 to 140 do they dyno every car on the market
Quote Originally Posted by amilo16 did a dyno before and after mine 66kw (90bhp) dyno - 88bhp 222nM - after ecu remapdyno 138bhp 283nM 85kw (115hp) engines goes to same results as its all the same except ECU restrictions p.s. now pls could anyone tel me why all the tuning box companies etc adverts that 66kw (90hp) ceed gains only to 118hp and 115 to 140 do they dyno every car on the market I am not
The filter you are referring to is actually the diesel Particulate Filter it tends to be located near to the Catalytic Converter and its job is to take the unclean exhaust gasses and remove a bit more rubbish from it before spitting out nicer air into the atmosphere... If the car failed on the DPF then it will need either a regeneration (clean out) or replacement. so you would probably need to remove
Quote Originally Posted by Alcpone The Op says that it starts fine in cold temps but warmer temps is when he gets a problem with smoke surely if its the plugs then it would be a nightmare to start. The glow plugs in a modern direct injection engine are not required to start a cold engine at normal UK ambient temperatures they are only required for a cold start when it is way below freezing. Twenty