have you checked your intercooler pipe to turbo for any holes mine popped off yesterday and it became horrible stalling plumes of smoke and very noisey sounding very similar to your problem. its a very common problem for the inner wheel arch to wear a groove into the pipe and cause this problem. roy
arch there is a deep rub mark but again not all the way through and where one of the smaller pipes joins this there is also some wear (please see pics) Also is the MAF sensor the one within the black inlet pipe which connects to the air filter box Is this really suddenly enough to cause so much smoke and stalling everytime Thanks again Attached Thumbnails       __________________ fiat
Whilst checking vacuum pipework for leaks is a good idea overboost issues will never cause stalling. Id block the EGR as stated (quite easy - I did a howto somewhere on the forum a while back) but suspect John is correct about the injection of dirt into engine and consequent damage
Just because the ecu has logged a fault with for example injector circuit that doesnt definitely mean that the injector is shot and must be replaced. IIRC the car cant fail the MoT for airbags not working they have no way to test them for a start. As for stalling Id start here httpwww.fiatforum.comstilo-guide...rol-valve.html jqx81o thanked for this post
Originally Posted by jqx81o i need to take it to fiat but i hear nothing but bad stories about them. your quite happy to take free advise from them on internet forums though Originally Posted by jqx81o how come fiat can get away with selling such shoddy equipment. id never even thought you could have a problem with air bags now reading from this forum it seems every stilo owner has had to have theres
bit of history.fiat stilo........ new radiator. front wiper linkage. 3 head light bulbs 2 brake bulbs.3 wiper blades . rear brakes pads and discs . 3 coil packs new spark plugs. 2 new air filters. all in 3 years.. toyota......had this car 5 years never serviced never failed an mot . 1 side light. top up of oil. thats it. i do like my stilo but i just like things to work.
Originally Posted by jqx81o bit of history.fiat stilo........ new radiator. front wiper linkage. 3 head light bulbs 2 brake bulbs.3 wiper blades . rear brakes pads and discs . 3 coil packs new spark plugs. 2 new air filters. all in 3 years.. Bulbs tend to blow when you have a weak battery so you cant blame the car for that. Brake pads discs and wiper blades are pretty normal things to wear out. Air
I have now checked the spark plugs which where all fine. Ive used electrical contact cleaner on the D4 connector and both the connections to the ECU and Im still having the same stalling problem. Ive used fiatecuscan to pull the following information. Any help would be appreciated
a few seconds then stall. (making it completely unusable) Ive replaced the air flow sensor (which I believe is called the MAP sensor) and also cleaned the throttle body out completely cleaning both sides of the valve. I have also checked and cleaned all the main connections under the bonnet. Any advise on this problem would be greatly appreciated Thanks in advance Karl (from lincoln) Hi I have a fiat
I dont have the error code from the fiat specialist just what he said it meant. I have the demo version of the fiat Scan software so I will plug it in again and see what it says.
My stilo has the magneti marelli c146 throttle body...does this have the IAC valve integrated in it Ive replaced the throttle body with a working second hand one...plus i cleaned it...i put my old one back on...exactly the same...did the throttle learn process via the diagnostic software. Thanks.
Theres a few threads on here for idling stalling problems. Very common problem for early 1.6 model A fiat dealer or good independent should be able to do diagnostic check to see what needs doing You need to make sure that 1.6 stilo has had pressure sensor modification and ecu update. Idle valve may need cleaning out.
thermostat expect poor heater output dash gauge never getting to N heater cooling off even more and engine dying at idle after long fast stretch of road heater pipes to cabin very warm but not scolding hot Its not essential to replace coolant. I wouldnt drain the coolant out I would just remove the thermostat and allow for spillage then theres very little to top up again __________________ 02 stilo
na. not in the bravo- got the sport so its not the smoothest of boxes infact when its cold best leave second alone till its warm. not really had many problems with the bravo on the scale of the stilo. i think the worst i have had is a bust radiator that spray boiling hot water into my aircon condensor and ruined the lot. all on warranty though as well as a bravo i have a 2001 306HDi now as well (got rid of the saxo chav rocket). that has some intersting faults every now and then that keeps me busier than any fiat has done
hi. my stilo seems to have the same problem of stalling all the time. its in at fiat for a diagnostic tomorrow morning will this pick up if its the thermostat. Thanks
a good connection though with crocodile clips and not just holding a multimeter on the connectors. Just like an old volume control on a radio which crackles and produces noise these TPSensors are the same. This is how they look throughout the range when theyre connected with a 5v input from the ECU . Then id clear fault codes and see what happens Attached Thumbnails   __________________ 02 stilo
B See the ECU M10B connector thats the one nearest the battery. Now ideally you want something exactly the same dia as the ECU connector pins as you dont want to jam something in there that will make the pins a sloppy fit afterwards. Find the relevant pins connect up a multimeter and then see if you can see any problems with checking the TPS resistances from there. __________________ 02 stilo
Its getting stranger every day.. This afternoon i visited the fiat dealer for a diagnose freeze frame data wasnt available.. The fault codes that came up this time were P0101 P0105 P0110 and U1706 No faults on the throttle body or sensors I have to say that since i cleaned the M10B connector on the ECU i havent had any stalling problems or accelerator issues since then. So i guess the cause was a
to your MAP being out of range or a cricuit problem. With a P0105 then the car wont clear the fault on its own once its flagged as bad then it ignores it until you clear the fault code Test by back probing your MAP sensor. Should have A white Earth B white Air temp arouind 3.3v at 15C C grey 5v supply D green map signal -around 4.5v with just key to MAR maybe down to 1.5v at tickover NB the fiat
cleared the old stored engine data and told it to try it again __________________ 02 stilo 1.6 Dynamic 3 door 99 Bravo 1.2SX Last edited by Deckchair5 18-12-2009 at 1724 .   Quote   19-12-2009   10 suzukib Get Your Own Title   Join Date Nov 2009 Location Southampton Posts 54 Thanks 0 Trader Rating 0   Re 1.6 stalling after cold start Brilliant thanks for that mate. Well fiat
Theyre not Bosch super 4s are they Renowned for causing misfires and bad engine running on the 1.6 engiine. If so change them and put the standard NGK in pt no BKR5EZ on 0.9mm gap MAP is here. Real easy on a 1.6. Watch you dont break the securing clip. Tie wrap it up if you do __________________ 02 stilo 1.6 Dynamic 3 door 99 Bravo 1.2SX Last edited by Deckchair5 21-12-2009 at 1103 .   Quote
Your stalling might be cured by cleaning your inlet control valve. Easy DIY job... httpwww.fiatforum.comstilo-guide...rol-valve.html Clivvy liked this post
Originally Posted by Yellow Peril Your stalling might be cured by cleaning your inlet control valve. Easy DIY job... httpwww.fiatforum.comstilo-guide...rol-valve.html 1 Whitby Lady liked this post
Sheernes need to know what car you have petrol diesel and what engine. That said does this issue occur when the car is hot only i.e. is it fine until warmed up if so have the CKP sensor checked and changed. A faulting CranKshaft Position Sensor will cause bad starting stalling and spurious errors on the dash. Its a reasonably cheap fix.
its a 1.6 im wondering james have you changed your air filter if thats clogged it will reduce the air flow to the engine. my 1.6 done this as well from new - fiat dealer couldnt find a problem until a throttle body update was done at the dealers. give the throttle body another clean you could have rubbish got back in there from all the work you have had done since you last cleaned it for a 5 min job
Ive had this sort of problem on a couple of stilos. Despite trying second-hand MAFs and throttle bodies I wasnt getting anywhere. Then I fitted new MAFs (in both cases) and both were solved. I think that fault code is quite reliable (and second-hand MAFs arent ) -Alex