Should be able to - just open up your key and replace the crystal inside
card reader dont you mean code reader thats the aerial around the ignition switch. or do you mean the code box thats in the same area as the fusebox (in front of drivers right knee). the codebox is a black thing if you have one to fit at least youll know exactly what to look for. if you swap your ecu and codebox and key chips over it should work unless the problem is a wiring fault which is commonly the cause of immob failures.
The problem with changing the transponder over is that it is buried in the key head and you have to cut head up to get it out. Its easy to remove the ign lock- Undo bottom surround from steering column. Put key in lock and turn to ignition on. Locate the pawl through aperture in plastic housing and press in. Pull out on key andor lever switch out with screwdriver.
Originally Posted by reddy4bed The problem with changing the transponder over is that it is buried in the key head and you have to cut head up to get it out. all my keys just pop open using a finger nail ive never had to damage one. i guess non-remote keys may be different
its very easy. stick the red key in ignition switch ignition on take red key out stick first blue key in ignition switch ignition on take first blue key out stick second blue key in ignition switch ignition on take second blue key out stick the red key in ignition switch ignition on take red key out. job done the new key now starts the engine.
if you have your original red key then you dont need to change your codebox and ecu . you can use the red key to teach the car any other key. if you dont have your original red key then you do need the matching ecu and codebox from the car the new key came from. you dont need to use the ignition switch you can simply take the new keys chip out and place it inside your old key allowing your old key
Originally Posted by jug if you have your original red key then you dont need to change your codebox and ecu . you can use the red key to teach the car any other key. if you dont have your original red key then you do need the matching ecu and codebox from the car the new key came from. you dont need to use the ignition switch you can simply take the new keys chip out and place it inside your old key
Originally Posted by ponsaloti Where are you. I am in Mid-Norfolk. I have spoken to some other fiat Garages now who are all telling me the same thing. All I need to do is to get it going for another 10 months so I am now considering hotwiring it and then sticking a switch underneath just so I can start it I never lock it anyway and never keep anything in it so not too fussed. I have just removed the
It will not start without the transponder in the key being near the ignition switch as you say that is the immobiliser doing its job. Unless you can find the key the only way is with an ecu key swap.
Ah ha I see now. Damn. I did not realise that there was something in the actual key plastic itself I can see a small lead coming off the top of the ignition just where the key goes in I am guessing thats it. So even if I bypassed the immobiliser it still would not start Looks like I have written off my car then -( Originally Posted by bpetersb It will not start without the transponder in the key being
any bravo brava or marea can be used as a donor for the barrel and switch. replacement is easier than you expect. you can grind the tumblers down on the new barrel (with your old key inserted in the barrel) then it will match your old key. that way you dont need to replace your other locks (doors boot govebox).
battery problems often cause the immob system to freeze up like this. i think the battery is by far the most likely cause since it packed up last week. if a new battery doesnt solve the problem then you need to check the immob fuse i the enigne bay and also wiggle the wires on the ignition switch aerial. MOUSE123 thanked for this post
Originally Posted by jug battery problems often cause the immob system to freeze up like this. i think the battery is by far the most likely cause since it packed up last week. if a new battery doesnt solve the problem then you need to check the immob fuse i the enigne bay and also wiggle the wires on the ignition switch aerial. Thanks for the reply. The battery went compleatly dead last week and had
you are correct the immob simply disconnects the fuel pumps earth if you give the pump a permanent earth you will bypass the immob. however you dont need to do that the fact that your fault is intermittent shows that you have the common connector fault. this is usually the connector on the aerial around the ignition switch or the connector in the codebox near the fusebox (in front of drivers right
oh dear another unsuspecting buyer stung with the fiat key game. youve got a bit of a problem there. the easiest (and cheapest) long term solution is to get the ignition lock reset so it will accept the old red key. any lock can be reconfigured to accept any key. you want the ignition to match the door so this is a good thing to do anyway. with the ignition working on the old red key you than have
there should only be 1 red key. check that it is an original fiat key. to check that the red key is really the red key and not a clone of a blue key you should switch the ignition on and check that the key code light goes out then switch ignition off and back on within 5 secs. the key code light should now remain illuminated if it does not then you havent used the red key. assuming it is the red key
motor. If the feed is there (this is the bit im guessing at) there should be a switchcam inside the motor assembly that puts a feed onto the motor when its not parked. So what im saying is check to see if you have a feed at the motor. If yes prob motor fault strip it if you can. If not then prob wiringswitch fault. Let us know how you get on or if you are still stuck. Dave. ) marea HLX 2.0 20v h6fiatcentral
Hi Assuming they havent changed it on the 2001 version Ill tell you how I switch off the alarm on my 1997 marea HLX 20V saloon. As well as the blue ignition keys have you got a small key about an inch long the blade of the key opens out to a kind of cup shape like the letter O if you were looking down on the key when it was standing on end. Assuming you have that the next thing is locate the fuses
have you checked if your sparkplugs are sparking on your car there is no point trying them in your bros car you need to determine fi your coil pack is firing the plugs on your car. if it isnt then the crankshaft position sensor is the most likely cause. another option is the immob. if the key code light is remaining illuminated then it means the immob is not switching off BUT when using a red key the
1. use removal keys for the bravo brava marea or stick a butter knife at each side rought 23rd of the way down and wiggle them while you stick your fingers in the tape deck to pull it free. on fiats the live and ignition switched live are rreversed i suspect the previous ownr may have modifed them to deal with this. the car has ISO connectors behind the stereo so youll need to have a look and see what
onoff switch and have a look at the terminals on the back - make a note of the wire positions. Then remove the wires and buzz out the switch in the on position then you should be able to make an educated guess as to the pins which would be connected if it was in the off position and thus you can re-attach the wires in a new order to simulate it actually being turned off. Or if you are lucky and fiat
marker lamps have 2 uninsulated space contacts which are in the gas locker one water bottle pushed against them took all the road lights on their Ford Focus as it blew the light switch control fuse according to mr RAC the last thing you want as your about to leave site now since been heat shrunk to insulate them..) look at my guide (im not sure the wires will be the same colour on yours) httpwww.fiatforum.comgrande-punt...ass-relay.html
Model specific alarm questions are better off in the car sections IMO i know of the switch you refer to however its never been fitted on either of the mareas i have owned ive been lead to believe that it is operated by the ignition key but i assume this isnt the case how many wires are going into the switch and if possible can you tell the colours if you can provide this i may be able to find it on the wiring diagrams atleast to see how to override it. Thanks Ry
be the problem since the engine definately cant bump start if the immob is on. however it is odd that the key code light remains on as that suggests the immob is actually staying on. when the key code light remains on try switching the ignition off for a second and then back on if the light then goes out it means you probably have a clone of the red key rather than a blue key. (is it an original fiat
The quick succession of clicks that you mentioned at the start show that some power is getting to the starter solenoid but thats just the sort of sound it makes if there isnt enough power eg low battery or poor battery earth connections. Pamper me and redo your battery connections and redo check the battery has a good earth contact to the engine as its a common problem and will cause all your symptoms.
Hello again Read through again the forum for alarm-remote issues in marea category. I had another 3hours with the alarm programming today. No results. -If I press the button next to interior light and keep pressed its blinking until press button on remote. Nothing after this. -After ignition turned off red LED lights up for two second next to foglight switch. -One remote blinking allright other remote
yes we have a guy called tony who can help if you need a red key or an ecu saving you a lot of money. this is his website httpmyweb.tiscali.co.ukdatarecall its unusual that a fiat dealer would send someone to this website for help instead of telling them them must pay a small fortune. you may have discovered the best fiat dealer in the country. we can probably fix your problem for free. can you explain
Originally Posted by The Beast You reset the ecu by disconnecting the battery for a few hours. i knocked the fuel cut off switch car would not start but had a spark in the plugs when i turned the fuel switch on had the fuel comming through but no spark from the plugs when turning the engine over when i turn on the ignition on the key code light gose off as normal but when you tunr the engine over the key code light flashes
Alors The car is coming back to me for the moment - the garage have had it 5 days and cannot get it NOT to start They have tried everything I said and more and it has started everytime. They have not put it on the diagnostics machine as they say it is too old to be compatible with their Peugeot machine (wrong USB cable apparently) but they have said that if I take it to fiat it must not start for them
ok seen as youre a nice guy to find the codebox you simply follow the wiring from the aerial around the ignition switch. it goes directly to a black plastic box that is behind the dash up near the fusebox (slightly to the left or it). that box holds your key codes. it is paired with the ecu so you must get a matching ecu and codebox. the red key is paired to the codebox. it can be used to teach the
Originally Posted by jug ok seen as youre a nice guy to find the codebox you simply follow the wiring from the aerial around the ignition switch. it goes directly to a black plastic box that is behind the dash up near the fusebox (slightly to the left or it). that box holds your key codes. it is paired with the ecu so you must get a matching ecu and codebox. just like to highlight the word simply...
Originally Posted by jug ok seen as youre a nice guy to find the codebox you simply follow the wiring from the aerial around the ignition switch. it goes directly to a black plastic box that is behind the dash up near the fusebox (slightly to the left or it). that box holds your key codes. it is paired with the ecu so you must get a matching ecu and codebox. the red key is paired to the codebox. it
immobiliser is not switching off try the red key. if red key doesnt work either then you have an immob fault often something as simple as the immob ecu s fuse connections are rusty or the aerial around the ignition barrel has a loose connector or the codebox near the interor fusebox has a bad connection.
Originally Posted by kev dedra does anyone have the answer to why after pressing the button on the dasboard to get the temperature display up in the mileage display it doesnt reset after 10 secs like its supposed to if you press the reset button it does nothing until you hold it in long enough to flash up the lieage reading before returning to the temperature display once it has decided to reset the
not cranking and not starting are two different things.. check your battery connections and starter connections and earths first.. if the starter turns ok with a jumper wire then theres got to be some problem with the batteryignition switchsuppliesconnections etc.. this could be affected by temperature. Im fairly sure the immobiliser will not stop engine from cranking.. if there is a problem with the
disconnect the tank sender unit at the tank and see if the gauge moves. given that its staying up with the ignition off its quite likely then that the gauge needle is stuck in the cluster in which case you could dismantle it to find out why - sometimes a piece of dust or dirt can jam the gauge mechanism. just remove the cluster (small allen key needed) and pull the front cover off the cluster (its
make sure you disconnect batery before you disconnect the pretensioner. in most cases you will be ok as long as you do not switch ignitionon with it disconencted but to prevent airbag system faults it is ebst to disconnect battery and wait 15mins before you disconnect the pretensioner. seatbelt removal is easy enough but the bolts require a fairly large torx bit. a torx key usually wont be enough to loosen them so a ratchet is needed. iansea100 thanked for this post
it wont be the key imo they are bullet proof. most common fault is the connection at the aerial on the ignition switch (wiggle its wire) and also the connection at the codebox behind the dash (wiggle its wire) and alsop a rusty immob fuse holder in the engine bay (clean it)