You might look in the Stilo section for a recent thread on brakes . Might help you decide on your choice I got new discs from buypartsby but the carriage could be expensive to ROI. There is an old thread in bravo section re winding back the rear calipers to fit pads. Worth a good read.
Yes you do need a wind-back tool for winding back the rear calipers. They wind back clockwise on the right-hand side and anti-clockwise on the left. The fronts dont need any special tools from what I can tell but you will need to deal with brake pad wear sensors (on the left-hand front according to my workshop manual.). I havent actually worked on my front brakes so I have no personal experience. Mintex
Id guess then drilled pads etc will make very little difference you could convert your front callipers to take something like 1.8 bravo discs httpwww.fiatforum.comcinq-sei-te...-calipers.html He had problems as they werent 1.8 callipers iirc. or alternatively stick standard discs on and get better pads i got reddot pads and theyre great no brake fade however thats on a 2.0 bravo HGT with vented discs as standard.
If your drilled rotors are E approved they are VERY unlikey to fracture. As far as I have worked out of you have brake fade you need venting - and if you just need more stopping power you need softer pads. So get the vented calipers and pads from a 1.6 auto 1.8 or 1.9 (diesel) bravobravamarea and that should cure it. For even better brakes fit green stuff pads. The discs can be the cheapest ones you can find - they make little or no difference.
Originally Posted by Hellcat If your drilled rotors are E approved they are VERY unlikey to fracture. As far as I have worked out of you have brake fade you need venting - and if you just need more stopping power you need softer pads. So get the vented calipers and pads from a 1.6 auto 1.8 or 1.9 (diesel) bravobravamarea and that should cure it. For even better brakes fit green stuff pads. The discs
ok ths has turned out to be a more complicated answer then i expectyed lmao i was just expecting a get brand X there pads and discs are better anyway from what you saying to see a real difference its better to get bigger brake set up you suggest the bravo ones wich i believe are the same as the jtd punto as the discs and pads have same part numbers. soooo if i can get all i need from a srappy is jtd
if you havent changed the pads (front) then what is the condition of the calipers and discs . calipers pads could be seized and bravos are approaching the stage where discs need to be replaced anyway. they are relatively cheap. If you have ABS (most JTD s should have) then there is no brake balance valve to worry about but if there is one examine it also. If you changed the shoes did you examine the
Although the solution sounds unbelievable you already know really but dont want to think about it. Its either a seized & partial seizure of one or both calipers (partial on one side only) or a problem with the pistons after the rewind issue last time. I call strip replace calipers & pads examine discs replace discs if beyond useful service state bleed & replace brake fluid.
Originally Posted by Tad-bravo Painful to read... You know you can break lines dont you Dont you get punctuation For those with difficulty - Although the solution sounds unbelievable you already know really but dont want to think about it. Its either a seized & partial seizure of one or both calipers (partial on one side only) or A problem with the pistons after the rewind issue last time. I call Strip
Got the new Caliper today still waiting on discs and pads.The only thing is the new caliper is a lovely new gold colour and the other is 6 year old black-gray one.So before discs and pads fitted was wondering what colour to paint the calipers.The car is ink black discs will be black and pads greenAny suggestions appreciated. On another note JayfishIm definitly interested in the chip if your still selling
Vibration when braking can be caused by warped or unevenly worn discs wornsoft suspension mountings worn wheel bearings. When you say you replaced the brakes was this just the pads or discs as well discs should be checked for thickness variation and run-out (wobble). If these were replaced ensure their mounting faces were clean. Sticking brakes suggest that the calipers were not cleaned properly and
Originally Posted by WhiteSei Look here httpwww.fiatforum.compunto259103-brake-pads.html httpwww.fiatforum.comclassifieds...product20401 that link is just for the bravo pads.
there are a few different types but if you also swap the caliper mounting brackets then yes you can fit any bravo brava or marea calipers as long as you have the correct discs and pads. the 2 mounting bolt holes are in the same position on all hubs. which calipers you fitting klemster thanked for this post
Originally Posted by jug there are a few different types but if you also swap the caliper mounting brackets then yes you can fit any bravo brava or marea calipers as long as you have the correct discs and pads. the 2 mounting bolt holes are in the same position on all hubs. Thank you Just wanted to be sure the bolt holes were the same Originally Posted by jug which calipers you fitting Now that would be telling
Originally Posted by alainax thier so hard to get a hold of been searching for a few days now gonna do the rear disk conversion as soon as i get all the parts. ( cosmetic purposes mainly lol) so its just hubs mounts n calipers which disks are best with this set up xxx Tell me about it i looked for a good couple of months before giving up and putting all new standard stuff on. Alex did the same also.
Originally Posted by DovlaK Hello everybody Im sorry for my bad english. I have a Brava 19TD 75HP and i want to put discs on rear brake. Can I use rear discs from some bravo HGT which had rear discs by factory How difficult it can be Do you have some tutorial for this action Many thanks Regards Vladimir Yes straight swap you can either do the conversion with or with out taking the axle out. It is easier
Originally Posted by JoskeJTD Technically you wont get no vast improvement unless your car is on a track and the brakes are getting hot most of the time. If your brakes are already vented leave the current setup. If you want to upgrade the brakes you can fit the 1.8 fiat bravo Front brake Callipers vented discs and pads for better braking. The bravo HGT rear disc conversion will not improve the braking
On track Id say you need even less rear braking as late braking trowns the weight over the front and leads to a very annoying tendancy for the car to spin when the rears lock. I have just removed my DS3000 pads from the rear and replace with std road pads. I had coupe turbo calipers (16vt) ds3000 on tipo 16v brembo discs I would estimate this would fit the non 20v bravos and it was fantastic braking but disc warpage leads me to a AP Cp5100 4 pot set up.
You need to check the thickness of the discs and how much the pads are worn. Rust on the surface of the calipers and parts of the discs is completely normal and will not affect brake performance. Rust on the brake surface on the discs is normal as well if the cars been standing a while andll dissapear as soon as you use them a bit. Replacing the calipers and discs will only last a short while until the new bits starts rusting as well
you will get the calipers from a good scrappy for 20 quid each. but like it says above dont ask for gt ones they will think they are worth more all this list have the same calipers Alfa Romeo Alfa 145146 1.6 397 onwards Alfa 155 1.8-2.0 8v - TD 92 onwards Alfa 145146 1.7 fiat Punto GT 697 onwards Bravabravo 1.81.9 DTD Barchetta 397 onwards Tipo 2.0 ie 93 onwards Tempra 2.0 ie1.9TD 90 onwards Punto
Originally Posted by dave you will get the calipers from a good scrappy for 20 quid each. but like it says above dont ask for gt ones they will think they are worth more all this list have the same calipers Alfa Romeo Alfa 145146 1.6 397 onwards Alfa 155 1.8-2.0 8v - TD 92 onwards Alfa 145146 1.7 fiat Punto GT 697 onwards Bravabravo 1.81.9 DTD Barchetta 397 onwards Tipo 2.0 ie 93 onwards Tempra 2.0
1.6 and bigger Weekend had vented disks at front (and 1.6 auto saloon manual shared same as bravobrava). bravo and brava have vented disks up from 1.8. Diameter for the disc is same but vented is 8mm thicker. If it fits inside the carrier and pads fit I see why not I just dont see a need for vented discs on a 1.2 unless you plan on upgrading the calipers. Front brakes for the 1.6 are same as on 1.2 The rear brakes dont need much on light and short bravo so I would not upset the balance.
i found this 257mm vented discs calipers and pads from other fiat models will fit Marea 1.6 auto saloon (not manual) Marea 1.6 estate Marea 1.8 1.9TD 100 & TD110 (not 2.4) Tempra 2.0 petrol & TD bravoa 1.8 1.9TD 100 Tipo 2.0 8 valve Punto GT mk1 Alfa 155 1.8 8v or 1.8 16v (not 2L) So bravo 1.9 TD 100 calipers fill fit on my punto with tarox S2000 and pads for fiat bravo
Originally Posted by Hellcat Bigger calipers at front would require larger amount of fluid.. Just seemed a good idea to swap both front and rear as they are connected. How much work was swapping the rear brakes Once all the physical brake parts are swapped hardest part will be the handbrake Not quite HGT front brakes have discs afew mm larger than the other bravos. The thickness of the discs are the
Originally Posted by Hellcat Why would he want aftermarket solid discs when a greater performance can be gained by getting vented discs You currently have 257x12x40 the vented discs on the 1.6auto 1.8 and 1.9 diesels are 257x20x40 - so only the thickness is different. I did exactly the same job on my Tipo Diesel going from solid 257s to vented. Never had brake fade again. httpwww.fiatforum.comtipo37144-...ted-discs.html
Originally Posted by id12586 Ive installed a year ago Zimmerman Vented discs without changing the stock calibers Youve just raised a very valid point. Ive been looking at the fiat ePER and that shows compatability vith most of the range with the calipers. This link might not work. They are single piston sliding calipers so I reckon all I need do is change disks to vented with new pads. Now has anyone
Originally Posted by Hellcat Vented discs are around 10mm thicker than solid discs. There is not enough space under solid disc calipers to fit vented discs plus pads. As for performence discs - more performance can be gained by fitting performance pads (e.g. green stuff) than performance discs. Fit green stuff pads with the cheapest discs you can buy and you will love the performance - plus if you
you dont get as much engine braking on an auto so they need better brakes. if they use the same calipers as a 1.6 then you can use the auto discs and pads however at a scrapyard a complete front brake setup from a 1.8 bravo brava or marea will not cost much at all if you can find a set with decent discs that you can use it will work out a very cheap upgrade. i found my 1.6 suffered badly from brake
Thanks for your help folks. Ffoxy - I checked the brakes as per your suggestion - the pedal depressed after ignition so I assume the power assitance is working okay. Bluejohn125 - The car had been stood for a while the discs had corroded quite severely and the brakes felt like they were grinding after a long journey. I was also advised the pads could do with changing soon. The cars only done 3000 miles
no point in rear discs they only do 10% or the braking. upgrade the pads and discs that makes a big difference to fade at high temperatures. if your brakes have solid discs then upgrade to the brakes with vented discs wont cost much at all getting calipers from a scrapyard.
Dont forget brake pads he he the punto gt calipers are hard to find but i did a cross check ages ago and they are the same as brava bravo alfa etc barchetta 1.8 and over with 252 vented discs so get to the scrappy Ant and even bigger 20v marea and weekend and coupe but will need 16in wheels
Neither of those exhausts I will reccomend they are poor quality. Supersprint on the other hand are excellent. How big is big 257mm vented discs calipers and pads from other fiat models will fit Marea 1.6 auto saloon (not manual) Marea 1.6 estate Marea 1.8 1.9TD 100 & TD110 (not 2.4) Tempra 2.0 petrol & TD bravoa 1.8 1.9TD 100 Tipo 2.0 8 valve Punto GT mk1 Alfa 155 1.8 8v or 1.8 16v (not 2L) Taken from www.puntomk2.co.uk
httpwww.fiatforum.comtipo-guides Where it mentions the 1315mm bolts... read as 7mm hex. Ill get a guide put together soon... as soon as I find a set of big calipers for the bravo. In the meantime.. tricky parts Removing that spring on the front.. Use pliers or put a cloth over it otherwise it has the potential to do some injury as it springs off. Removing the inner pad from the caliper - its held in
Ive done it on my JTD bravo. Dead easy to do. All you need is... 1. Rear discs 2. Spacer For Hub. (The old one wont sit the discs right take off doner car) 3. Disk Guard 4. Calliper Mounts and bolts. 5. Callipers 6. Handbrake cables (LR) from doner car or buy new. 7. brake pads 8. New Rear Section brake Lines The hubs can stay and so can the ABS sensors if you have ABS. Technically there is no gain in braking its more for looks and easier to maintain than drums.
Originally Posted by SkinzCinqSporting Very nice maybe some light tints on the windows and then id start thinking about some nice brakes to show off behind the claws Cheers yeh tints next . You can just about see them in the pic but I already have drilled and grooved discs on the front and the back with OMP racing pads (front) green stuff pads (rear). So I guess painting the calipers some colour yeh
Thanks for the advice Normaly I wouldnt go to such drastic measures but I do intend to swap the engine someday for a 1.4 16v so Ill need some better anchors.... Besides the brakes on my car have given me wicked trouble warped discs burned pads seized calipers are just some of the woes Ive had. I wont mention the back ones thatll give me nightmares just thinken about that
Im on with building up a collection of parts ready to change Bunnys bravo from drum to disc. Esentially you will need calipers discs pads and possibly some hub components and the rear plate which holds the caliper.