Originally Posted by Bookish Ive got the xenon headlights on our twinair plus but the washers seem to have stopped spraying could I have flicked them off whilst messing with my menu settings Cannot find anything in my manual I dont want to return it to the dealer without checking first as I might look a bit of an idiot if Ive switched them off somehow. IIRC there is a seperate washer bottle for the headlight washers. Bookish thanked for this post
There is its in front of the battery. The headlamp washers do consume a fair amount of fluid.. Bookish thanked for this post
na defo no second washer bottle had the torch out under the bonnet. no mention of it in manual either. looks like Ill have to book it in under warrenty
Originally Posted by bgunn There is its in front of the battery. The headlamp washers do consume a fair amount of fluid.. why is this not in the manual im off out for another look
Posted by 306maxi Just out of curiosity why would you want to disable them you dont have an answer for me do you Rather than asking in the middle of winter I thought Id ask now I have had bad experience with headlight washers freezing during sub-zero temperatures and screwing up the headlight washer mechanisam. I am sure there is a fuse to disable that function somewhere and may just ask fiat
Originally Posted by wigit Putting a warning adds cost pitty as would be useful weekly fill ups for me and a large stash in he boot thank heavens there is a second reservoir for those with xenons HIDs you mean (private joke). Totally agree though the headlight washers are effective but consume vast amounts of water. Slightly annoyingly they come on with every pull of the wiper stalk rather than every second or third windscreen wash as other vehicles do. Most Easterly Pandas liked this post
Originally Posted by bgunn HIDs you mean (private joke). Totally agree though the headlight washers are effective but consume vast amounts of water. Slightly annoyingly they come on with every pull of the wiper stalk rather than every second or third windscreen wash as other vehicles do. Dont worry Ive suffered a similar fait lol
Taken from MOT regulations that came into force on 1st January 2012 headlight requirements are updated to take account of the particular characteristics of High Intensity Discharge (HID) lamps. HID headlights can cause dazzle if they are dirty or aimed too high so car manufacturers must fit headlamp cleaning and levelling systems. A car will fail if a mandatory headlamp cleaning or levelling system
Originally Posted by Most Easterly Pandas And risk causing dazzle all oncoming drivers on a single carriageway road including those in much bigger vehicles Crashtest Audi Q7 vs. fiat 500 - YouTube I said for those inclined. Id rather not because its there for a reason. Fact is by sheer numbers there are more Halogen lit vehicles out there with incorrectly adjusted headlights that are just as adept
Oh and - do try replacing one of the headlight bulbs. They are a single filament bulb for dipped beam and I have seen more than one car over the year where BOTH bulbs had blown at the same time or within a short time of each other - believe it or not (They are likely to be both the same age after all). The funniest of this type was an old fiat Croma where both front and rear sidelights were not working
Id say youll only get that part from a fiat dealer. In most cars its the complete unit behind the steering wheel including the indicators headlights wipers washers and the stalks that control them - even the electronic control for intermittent wipers is usually part of it. Id expect it to be expensive so it might pay to try and find one from a wrecker. Perhaps a good auto-electrician could repair it
Originally Posted by storm0105 Thanks for your replys Grimwau yes I am changing my halogen light to OEM xenon In that case there is a separate washer bottle for the HID washers.This is located on the opposite side of the engine bay to the windscreen washer bottle. Obviously there is also a separate motor for the washers and that operates when you use your ordinary washers whilst the lights are on.
You could just fit the Abarthfiat OEM HID units and plumb in a separate tank for the washers and not bother with the self levelling although would be very naughty Or alternatively could fit Xenon bulbs like Ring xenon max or Osram Nightbreakers
The factory fit HIDs do have a separate washer bottle to prevent headlamp wash depleting the washer fluid from the main one.
Originally Posted by bgunn The factory fit HIDs do have a separate washer bottle to prevent headlamp wash depleting the washer fluid from the main one. May also be that they couldnt fit a bigger one in the same possition as the origional although a separate one is a much better idea for the reason you stated.
Originally Posted by Most Easterly Pandas May also be that they couldnt fit a bigger one in the same possition as the origional although a separate one is a much better idea for the reason you stated. Quite likely the front overhang is very short on the 500 so theres not a huge amount of room for one big bottle. The nature of the aerodynamics of the 500 means Im always using the washers for the rear
Originally Posted by RobW sounds like your 500 has a soul and was excited to see you I thought that it would be more likely to squirt the washers if it was that excited.
Originally Posted by grimwau I thought that it would be more likely to squirt the washers if it was that excited. proper smut - excellent grimwau thanked for this post
I think that the legal requirements for Xenons (apart from auto self levelling) require power washers rather than headlamp wipers.
Originally Posted by grimwau I think that the legal requirements for Xenons (apart from auto self levelling) require power washers rather than headlamp wipers. You are right grim my BM has xenons and power washers no wipers
I was wondering if you had bought the HID lights as I have seen these advertised on ebay. However you say they are a completely different shape whereas the HID versions are the same shape just a different style to incorporate the washers see pic below. As Maxi says possibly the main beams but then there would be no need to advertise them as for LHD. Can you post a picture of them for us to see
Koni FSD suspension Xenon HIDs uprated brakes reversing sensors rear privacy glass leather seats on Turismo models and Sabelt seats Monza exhaust on Competizione versions and 17 wheels. Once ive got my head around model differences can start the search properly. Going to be replacing her Clio 197 F1 as the 500 seems very similar performance wise. Thanks in advance. Dean. Hi Dean welcome to the fiat
liking the red with black alloys and the black roof option is sweet ps how are you finding the headlight washers mine just squirt all down the sides of the car lol not sure what theyll be like in winter
Cheers all we are excited now as should collect tomorrow. The added swirls on bumper and bonnet are bespoke and may not actually be staying with the car The black bits seem a bit dominant perhaps too masculine as the car is for my missus who is a girly girl. Didnt see one as they were a new model when we ordered the only pic was on the configurator. I dont really expect the headlight washers to be
Originally Posted by Bookish ps how are you finding the headlight washers mine just squirt all down the sides of the car lol not sure what theyll be like in winter My lights have never been dirty enough for me to tell whether the washers work. They make everything go all dark when you use them at night which is amusing
Cheers for the positive comments guys 5 days in... The black alloys show a lot more dirt than conventional silver versions. The car really does feel big car like and is surefooted in all scenarios except mid to large potholes. The 45 profile rubber bands contribute greatly to this. (We drive a Land Rover Discovery 3 as the other car so cant help comparing - but the little 500 does very very well) Road noise is extremely low for such as small and thin lump of stuff. The headlight washers are very effective actually the car is 5 days old and extremely dirty from the country lanes - except that is from the headlights and a nike esque swoosh down each side where the overspray from the washers has gone. Current consumption in its first 400 miles - just 43.5mpg but we expected that from other posts on here. Dualogic is great. Paddles also work in auto mode. The black roof is real special very nice metal fleck in it. You get black A pillars and roof lining too reminiscent of early RS Fords and current sporty BMWs Interscope is worth every penny and more the sub under the drivers seat sucks your hand in to INXS played at good volume it really goes for it but you would not know that its sound was not coming from the midrange speakers. The leather is very high end. You cannot get much of anything anywhere in these cars but we did test it to the limit our day to day stuff will just require a seat for the little lady and space in the boot for the laptop bag. Overall very very impressed do these italian (polish) cars still have a rust reputation though Many thanks. Regards fiat Convert FloJo liked this post
mean big beads of water not just a mist. This is made worse when its below freezing as I have melt the ice inside and then still wait 15 mins to dry it out. The. Whilst I am driving it take about half hour before the water stops running down the inside of the screen. It is frankly unacceptable. I have taken photos inside the car and scraped a bit of ice inside to show its j side and sent them to fiat
as yet but who knows you may be the first. hello and thank for the reply tony i am well aware of the MOT implications but i still want to do it but can they just plug in also theres alot of misconception about hid and xenon HID is High Intensity Discharge but then you can get a kit that includes ballasts etc etc easily purchased from ebay in various kelvins. whilst iam looking for the fiat
For me Id have to say that I couldnt do without the convertible. For all its rattles and squeaks when its doubles figures I have the roof back to either sunroof or all the way down. Its taken 6 months to run in properly but its now beginning to feel like the car it should be. I would probably say Xenon headlights too as they are fantastic and love the headlight washers but as Im moving to the town next week from my isolated rural location I doubt Ill really need HIDs on my next 500. Steve
Originally Posted by grimwau Arorat If you use the search function you will find that Maxi makes the same point about Xenons whether it is on a short wheelbase car or a bendy bus. It is his opinion which I respect but that is all it is an opinion the same as mine is just an opinion albeit with having owned several cars with Xenons and also having driven at night into oncoming traffic. Use your common
TechHouseC Thanks for a detailed description on the lights. Its good to know the xenons have their own washer reservoir. My fear was if the headlight washers froze or broke would the main washer tank leak and empty out but as there are 2 reservoirs this question is answered. Onto the freezing... was your car under warranty did it cover the freezing I would rather remove the fuse that operates the headlight washer in extreme winter months we have been having can this be done
Only had my TA for 6 months but nothings gone wrong so far. I was encouraged by Engineereds summary above. Regarding the Mini comparison my previous car was an 04 reg R50 Cooper which had done about 50000 miles when I sold it. A brilliant drive but very firm ride. It did feel a bit more premium than the 500 but I did have the following faults in the 2 years I had it Rear gas struts needed replacing
Originally Posted by Venters 3 years in the future there are 2 500 sitting next to each other on the forecourt. Both are BNW both are Lounges both are specced to the exact same level and both are 3 years old. however one is an 09 plate the other a 59 plate. Which one do you want more I dont want either of them... I want a brand new 500C in yellow with black roof and black leather a new engine revised
or in simple terms it a xenon (or H.I.D. if you prefer) headlamp that uses xenon for both dipped and main beam. It will come with the mandatory headlight washers to mess up your clean waxed paintwork too
Originally Posted by beau xenonhids headlights are the same thing and as said they are optional how will the police know if they are an aftermarket kit or the optional extra they wont simply unless they rip your car into bits. If you dont have high pressure headlamp washers they will know. Cheers D
Originally Posted by rallycinq If you dont have high pressure headlamp washers they will know. Cheers D i think they have to have washers OR self levelers iirc i might be wrong but im sure i read that somewhere. edit- it does have to have both but again likely hood of being done for it is very slim iv been pulled numerous times car checked nothings ever been said about my headlights.
Originally Posted by Scrogg Really Which Act of Parliament states that you know what i mean... yes you can fit them but you need auto levelers new headlights made for hids and washers.
Originally Posted by Ulpian I dont get these. I often debate with myself whether its worth having the wipers on and whether to use the washer as well which I usually do. How can a solenoid make all those decisions for me If they even once came on when I didnt want them my head would be well and truly done in. Ditto. Another pointless feature along with automatic headlights.